Calendars, Feast Days, and Torah. (Moses, sin, Jesus, blood)

[nateswift]

Originally Posted by pinacled

Galatians Commentary - Here a little, there a little - Commentary

This Link provides a study on Pauls letter to the Galatians. Retrospective comparisons to Calendar counts, Feast days and Torah observance.

Two approaches:
Start with the premise that the Law and observances are necessary to a relationship with God and then jump through the hoops necessary to justify it against all the evidence in Galatians and the rest of the New Testament. Then follow the parts of the Law you cherry pick using whatever system you devise to discard the inconvenient parts and claim that your ceremonies and observances have power in their own right.


OR


Start with the premise that the Law in itself is of no importance and it's observances and ceremonies only have the value you bring to them, BUT that we can follow the spirit that animated or inspired the Law, regardless of how it was misrepresented IN parts of the Law and the ceremonies and observances that you choose to express your devotion have the value you BRING to them an lea a life valuable to you an your society without having to wrack your mind to justify the unjustifiable.


Ummmmm... 2, thank you.

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by nateswift

Two approaches:
Start with the premise that the Law and observances are necessary to a relationship with God and then jump through the hoops necessary to justify it against all the evidence in Galatians and the rest of the New Testament. Then follow the parts of the Law you cherry pick using whatever system you devise to discard the inconvenient parts and claim that your ceremonies and observances have power in their own right.


OR


Start with the premise that the Law in itself is of no importance and it's observances and ceremonies only have the value you bring to them, BUT that we can follow the spirit that animated or inspired the Law, regardless of how it was misrepresented IN parts of the Law and the ceremonies and observances that you choose to express your devotion have the value you BRING to them an lea a life valuable to you an your society without having to wrack your mind to justify the unjustifiable.


Ummmmm... 2, thank you.

[granpa]

Non-Jews were never required to keep the Old testament laws

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noahidism

According to Jewish law, non-Jews are not obligated to convert to Judaism, but they are required to observe the Seven Laws of Noah to be assured of a place in the World to Come (Olam Haba), the final reward of the righteous. The divinely ordained penalty for violating any of these Noahide Laws is discussed in the Talmud, but in practical terms that is subject to the working legal system that is established by the society at large. Those who subscribe to the observance of these commandments are referred to as Bene Noach (B'nei Noah) (Hebrew: בני נח‬), Children of Noah, Noahides

[nateswift]

Originally Posted by granpa

Non-Jews were never required to keep the Old testament laws

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noahidism

According to Jewish law, non-Jews are not obligated to convert to Judaism, but they are required to observe the Seven Laws of Noah to be assured of a place in the World to Come (Olam Haba), the final reward of the righteous. The divinely ordained penalty for violating any of these Noahide Laws is discussed in the Talmud, but in practical terms that is subject to the working legal system that is established by the society at large. Those who subscribe to the observance of these commandments are referred to as Bene Noach (B'nei Noah) (Hebrew: בני נח‬), Children of Noah, Noahides

The difficulty came when zealots of the Ebionite persuasion insisted that gentiles convert to Judaism, as some do today (though some seem to claim that is only in order to get the best experience of heaven.)

[pinacled]

Ah,
The Three High Holy Days

Where would a man find such pearls?

[pinacled]

Originally Posted by nateswift

Two approaches:
Start with the premise that the Law and observances are necessary to a relationship with God and then jump through the hoops necessary to justify it against all the evidence in Galatians and the rest of the New Testament. Then follow the parts of the Law you cherry pick using whatever system you devise to discard the inconvenient parts and claim that your ceremonies and observances have power in their own right.


OR


Start with the premise that the Law in itself is of no importance and it's observances and ceremonies only have the value you bring to them, BUT that we can follow the spirit that animated or inspired the Law, regardless of how it was misrepresented IN parts of the Law and the ceremonies and observances that you choose to express your devotion have the value you BRING to them an lea a life valuable to you an your society without having to wrack your mind to justify the unjustifiable.


Ummmmm... 2, thank you.

Promises.....

Have you ever considered looking west?
Hmph,
As if a child such as yourself ever ignored the queen of the where did she go?

If you want to sharpen iron with me, you have to best my friend hanni.
I hope you don't missunderstand our conversation.

Hanni and I speak of the future.

The heaviest burden upon those who plow a feild in winter.

Hmph.
As if .

This yr is special...
Ten days...

Keep in mind.
This servor will be destroyed.

[RainMusic]

Originally Posted by nateswift

Two approaches:
Start with the premise that the Law and observances are necessary to a relationship with God and then jump through the hoops necessary to justify it against all the evidence in Galatians and the rest of the New Testament. Then follow the parts of the Law you cherry pick using whatever system you devise to discard the inconvenient parts and claim that your ceremonies and observances have power in their own right.


OR


Start with the premise that the Law in itself is of no importance and it's observances and ceremonies only have the value you bring to them, BUT that we can follow the spirit that animated or inspired the Law, regardless of how it was misrepresented IN parts of the Law and the ceremonies and observances that you choose to express your devotion have the value you BRING to them an lea a life valuable to you an your society without having to wrack your mind to justify the unjustifiable.


Ummmmm... 2, thank you.

I'll take door number 2 as well.

[pinacled]

Originally Posted by RainMusic

I'll take door number 2 as well.

The second watch is finished..


"o now proclaim in the ears of the people, saying, 'Whosoever is fearful and trembling, let him return and depart early from Mount Gilead.' " And there returned of the people twenty-two thousand; and ten thousand remained."

This is no secret to those who know hebrew.
There are a certain number of syllables held dear.

Two consonants are secreted away.
Have you heard?

Ears
Eyes
Hands
Feet

[pinacled]

No wonder respect has been lost.
As if honor could be found hidden in a day?

[101c]

Originally Posted by pinacled

Galatians Commentary - Here a little, there a little - Commentary

This Link provides a study on Pauls letter to the Galatians. Retrospective comparisons to Calendar counts, Feast days and Torah observance.

GINOLJC, to all.
Addressing the OP only, this is a good topic.

no, the Law was not done away with, but it's practicing ordinance was. other words all of the old things was made of none effect. meaning no we don't keep them, but as the apostle Paul said, we learn from them. Romans 15:4 "For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope".

the first thing we must understand from the OT writing is this. the Law was added, let me say it again, "THE LAW WAS ADDED".

and two, Abram, who is the father of faith who believe, got the promise of God before the Law, and before he was circumcise. for circumcision and the Law are only signs and types of what's to come. supportive scripture,

Galatians 3:15 "Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.

Galatians 3:16 "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Galatians 3:17 "And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

Galatians 3:18 "For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

Galatians 3:19 "Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator".


and for the LAW, none effect to those who have the promise, 1 Timothy 1:9 & 10 "Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine".

so, if one is in Christ Jesus, then they are dead to the Law. for it is his righteousness that ends or complete the LAW in us.


and as for Holy days, or feast days, Colossians 2:16 & 17 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ".

for holyday and feasts day was not something new to Israel. if one read the book of Job right in the very first chapter, #1 Job and his family and his Friends was in observance the feast of tabernacles.

and the Bible clearly identifies Job as a son of God. all of this is at the very first chapter.

so in reading the book of Job one can get the understanding of what the Lord God, THE ALMIGHTY ONE REQUIRE. Moses, as well as the Prophet Micah echoed God in saying the same thing. Micah 6:8 "He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?".

but Moses had been told them, Deuteronomy 10:12 "And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul".

this is what the LORD JESUS require. not observance of days, or the observance of the law, which should have been in their hearts after reading. and God did just that, (they want be broken anymore). and that's broken, literally, as well as Spiritually.

but if in Christ Jesus, we all should be at "REST". all days are holy unto the Lord, because he said, "be ye holy for I Am Holy.

Peace in Christ Jesus, Yeshua.