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No, BaptistFundie. There are too many demands, too many questions being laid on you that you cannot appropriately handle. I sense that, deep down, you know that you're wrong in your cherished beliefs about the Bible and homosexuality but you're too proud to admit this. So, there are only two alternatives, 1. to dig in your heels and play on, or, 2. to depart from the topic. You, BF, have shown me NOTHING to indicate - not the slightest smidgin' - that my particular take on the so-called 'clobber texts' of the Bible are inaccurate. And, 'my take' is that they DO NOT reference 'homosexuality' as we today define the term.
As you've been shown many times throughout the course of this thread, the actual terms 'homosexual' and 'homosexuality' - or any EQUIVALENT term in Hebrew, Aramaic of Greek - WERE NOT a part of the writings of scripture until 1946. Those are the FACTS and they are undisputed. Yes, as has also been acknowledged, same gender sexual practices ARE mentioned in perhaps a half-dozen places in the ENTIRE Bible but NONE of these texts refer to 'homosexuality' per se - nor are they an across the board condemnation of same-gender attracted people - as you so militantly keep saying. Do you honestly think that I would not agree with you if I believed that you were right? I have no particular dog in this fight except to clarify what the scriptures DO say and, more importantly, what the scriptures DON'T say about this topic.
Do you at least agree that the Bible is against sexual activity with two people of the same gender? If so, then how can you claim that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality?
And that's what this forum has come to. People that actually are Christians and believe the Bible are being chased off.
... otherwise known as shaking the dust off your feet and moving on...
Matthew 10:14, Luke 9:5
The adversary wants you to think this if you leave the discussion...
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Proving you haven't got the God given ability to remain in the Spirit and respond in it. The truth is, you don't have answers, so you walk away with your tail between your legs, that is what putting your trust in what is written in ink does for you, it is the spirit of the letter you should seek to understand.
And I've been waiting several days for you to respond to this question: Are two men holding hands or two women kissing passionately considered to be abominations? How about two men slow-dancing?
You're fond of calling homosexual behaviour an abomination. Please tell us which behaviours qualify for the title.
Do you at least agree that the Bible is against sexual activity with two people of the same gender? If so, then how can you claim that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality?
The people who wrote those passages in the Bible were against it.
The all-male heterosexual authorities of a patriarchal tribal society whose goal was to produce many children to strengthen the tribe against surrounding enemies would not look favorably upon same-sex relationships.
... otherwise known as shaking the dust off your feet and moving on...
Matthew 10:14, Luke 9:5
The adversary wants you to think this if you leave the discussion...
The only reason you stay away is because what you have as answers is a bunch of man made doctrines that can no longer pull the wool over the eyes who refuse to be force fed what to believe. Your idea of "shaking the dust off your feet" is a total misrepresentation of the meaning of it. Finn Jarber about your hero David Wilkerson?, just think if he had shaken his feet from the ghettos he went out into, you would not have Nicky Cruz to be hero too.
The people who wrote those passages in the Bible were against it.
The all-male heterosexual authorities of a patriarchal tribal society whose goal was to produce many children to strengthen the tribe against surrounding enemies would not look favorably upon same-sex relationships.
Nor would they look favorably on women not being the property of men or having a mind of her own. Some men have evolved since then and are not so easily threatened by those who don't fit such a controlling view.
Is the Bible against sexual activity with those of opposite genders?
If so, then the same would apply to those of the same gender.
God created sex. He isn't against it. However, it was designed for opposites sexes within the confines of marriage. Yet man has brought enormous physical and social ills to their life and others by not following these simple rules.
The people who wrote those passages in the Bible were against it.
The all-male heterosexual authorities of a patriarchal tribal society whose goal was to produce many children to strengthen the tribe against surrounding enemies would not look favorably upon same-sex relationships.
You need to establish first the the Bible is only a man made product and has no divine supernatural origin. You haven't done that.
And I've been waiting several days for you to respond to this question: Are two men holding hands or two women kissing passionately considered to be abominations? How about two men slow-dancing?
You're fond of calling homosexual behaviour an abomination. Please tell us which behaviours qualify for the title.
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