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Old 11-10-2015, 10:07 AM
 
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Published on Nov 14, 2013
Ex-gay porn star, Joe Sciambra, author of the book, 'Swallowed By Satan: How Our Lord Jesus Christ Saved Me From Pornography, Homosexuality, And The Occult' talks about what Christians can do to help the gay community.
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Old 11-10-2015, 10:29 AM
 
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Conservative Christians say they love LGBT individuals...but blame them any time a tragedy or natural disaster occurs in America

Conservative Christians say they love LGBT individuals...but they throw an absolute fit any time an LGBT person gets nominated or appointed to an honorable public position regardless of how qualified they are

Conservative Christians say they love LGBT individuals...but vehemently oppose any attempt to add sexual orientation to employment and housing non-discrimination laws

Conservative Christians say they love LGBT individuals...but also oppose anti-bullying programs because they teach teens to be nice to their gay peers

Conservative Christians say they love LGBT individuals...but run and support political candidates that run their entire campaigns on demonizing the LGBT community

Conservative Christians say they love LGBT individuals...but continually sound the alarm that God will completely destroy America for simply allowing them to exist

Conservative Christians say they love LGBT individuals...but as soon as one of their own children comes out as gay, they disown them

Conservative Christians say they love LGBT individuals...but as soon as one of their friends confides with them that they "struggle" with same-sex attraction, they pull away and end the friendship

Conservative Christians say they love LGBT individuals...but a significant number of them either quietly support the death penalty for homosexuals or are afraid to denounce and rebuke those who do

Conservative Christians say they love LGBT individuals...but demand they attempt dangerous reparative therapy that has been proven by psycologists to lead to severe depression and suicide

Conservative Christians say they love LGBT individuals...but demand that they never experience intimacy with another person and live their entire lives alone or be faced with eternal torment in hell.

Does this look like "love" to anybody? Most contemporary evangelicals dislike when people accuse them of hating homosexuals, but if their version of "love" is actually love, what does hate look like? The "love" that evangelicals claim to have for the LGBT community looks an awful lot like hate to me. Thoughts?
Basically some of you are saying - it should be OK to fill yourself up on doughnuts for breakfast, pop-tarts for lunch, and hot dogs/potato chips for dinner, along with washing it down with your favorite sugary drink, because that's what you want. It doesn't matter that it's a bunch of empty calories that does not provide the proper fuel for your body. If I love you, your diet should not matter - I should be OK with it - regardless that it will cause diabetes by the age of 30.

I would think that love would want the best for a person. The gay lifestyle is simply a sugary substitute for real healthy man/woman relationships for which we are designed.
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Old 11-10-2015, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Basically some of you are saying - it should be OK to fill yourself up on doughnuts for breakfast, pop-tarts for lunch, and hot dogs/potato chips for dinner, along with washing it down with your favorite sugary drink, because that's what you want. It doesn't matter that it's a bunch of empty calories that does not provide the proper fuel for your body. If I love you, your diet should not matter - I should be OK with it - regardless that it will cause diabetes by the age of 30.

I would think that love would want the best for a person. The gay lifestyle is simply a sugary substitute for real healthy man/woman relationships for which we are designed.
If you could demonstrate that a committed same sex relationship results in unhealthy situations any more than heterosexual relationships, you would not come across as prejudiced.
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Baldwin County, AL
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Basically some of you are saying - it should be OK to fill yourself up on doughnuts for breakfast, pop-tarts for lunch, and hot dogs/potato chips for dinner, along with washing it down with your favorite sugary drink, because that's what you want. It doesn't matter that it's a bunch of empty calories that does not provide the proper fuel for your body. If I love you, your diet should not matter - I should be OK with it - regardless that it will cause diabetes by the age of 30.

I would think that love would want the best for a person. The gay lifestyle is simply a sugary substitute for real healthy man/woman relationships for which we are designed.
Ahh yes, because eating donuts, pop tarts, hot dogs/potato chips, and sugary beverages are EXACTLY the same as 2 men or 2 women loving each other. EXACTLY the same. Yep, no difference AT ALL....

You know what isn't healthy? Living your life as someone else, and hating yourself for it. Pretending to be someone you are not so people don't make fun of you or ostracize you. You can not compare 2 gay people in love with some fat person who can't control their eating. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Apples and Honda's

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Old 11-10-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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If you could demonstrate that a committed same sex relationship results in unhealthy situations any more than heterosexual relationships, you would not come across as prejudiced.
Playing the naivety card...

Life expectancy for a 20 year old gay or bisexual man is 8 to 20 years less than the average male. The authors estimate that " nearly half of gay and bisexual men currently age 20 years will not reach their 65th birthday." Source: Hogg. RS., Strathdee, SA., Craib, KJP., O'Shaughnessy, MV., Montainer, JSG., Schechter, MT., " Modeling the impact of HIV Disease on Mortality in Gay and Bisexual Men," International Journal of Epidemiology, Vol. 26, No. 3, 1997, pp. 657-61.

In a 1997 news article, The New York Times stated that a male teenager entering the homosexual lifestyle today has a 50% chance of getting AIDS by the age of fifty. Source: Sheryl Gay Stolberg, " Gay Culture Weighs Sense and Sexuality," New York Times (late edition, east coast), November 23, 1997, section 4, page 1.


This was written by the Citizens for Parents Rights back in 2000.

Study after study reveals that homosexuality, whether male or female, can take anywhere from 10, 20 to 30 years off of someone's lifespan. With all the attention on smoking, which the National Cancer Institute says takes anywhere from 7 to 10 years off someone's life, why not the same human outcry on homosexuality? Here's a behavior that's killing people 2 to 3 times the rate of smoking, yet nobody seems to care. In fact, we are encouraging and affirming individuals into the "gay" lifestyle. If you truly love someone, you would steer them away from self-destructive behaviors, rather than towards them, wouldn't you? Homosexuals need our tough love, not blind love, the kind of love that is going to love them no matter what they say and do. We must extend that helping hand and say " I think you're worth saving, let's work on it together."
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:49 AM
 
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Playing the naivety card...

Life expectancy for a 20 year old gay or bisexual man is 8 to 20 years less than the average male. The authors estimate that " nearly half of gay and bisexual men currently age 20 years will not reach their 65th birthday." Source: Hogg. RS., Strathdee, SA., Craib, KJP., O'Shaughnessy, MV., Montainer, JSG., Schechter, MT., " Modeling the impact of HIV Disease on Mortality in Gay and Bisexual Men," International Journal of Epidemiology, Vol. 26, No. 3, 1997, pp. 657-61.

In a 1997 news article, The New York Times stated that a male teenager entering the homosexual lifestyle today has a 50% chance of getting AIDS by the age of fifty. Source: Sheryl Gay Stolberg, " Gay Culture Weighs Sense and Sexuality," New York Times (late edition, east coast), November 23, 1997, section 4, page 1.


This was written by the Citizens for Parents Rights back in 2000.

Study after study reveals that homosexuality, whether male or female, can take anywhere from 10, 20 to 30 years off of someone's lifespan. With all the attention on smoking, which the National Cancer Institute says takes anywhere from 7 to 10 years off someone's life, why not the same human outcry on homosexuality? Here's a behavior that's killing people 2 to 3 times the rate of smoking, yet nobody seems to care. In fact, we are encouraging and affirming individuals into the "gay" lifestyle. If you truly love someone, you would steer them away from self-destructive behaviors, rather than towards them, wouldn't you? Homosexuals need our tough love, not blind love, the kind of love that is going to love them no matter what they say and do. We must extend that helping hand and say " I think you're worth saving, let's work on it together."
From 10 Anti-Gay Myths Debunked




... "Anti-LGBT organizations have also tried to support this claim by distorting the work of legitimate scholars, like a 1997 study conducted by a Canadian team of researchers that dealt with gay and bisexual men living in Vancouver in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The authors of the study became aware that their work was being misrepresented by anti-LGBT groups, and issued a response taking the groups to task."


In part, the response (you can see it in full here: Gay life expectancy revisited)


says:


"...In contrast, if we were to repeat this analysis today the life expectancy of gay and bisexual men would be greatly improved. Deaths from HIV infection have declined dramatically in this population since 1996. As we have previously reported there has been a threefold decrease in mortality in Vancouver as well as in other parts of British Columbia"
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Old 11-10-2015, 12:14 PM
 
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From 10 Anti-Gay Myths Debunked




... "Anti-LGBT organizations have also tried to support this claim by distorting the work of legitimate scholars, like a 1997 study conducted by a Canadian team of researchers that dealt with gay and bisexual men living in Vancouver in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The authors of the study became aware that their work was being misrepresented by anti-LGBT groups, and issued a response taking the groups to task."


In part, the response (you can see it in full here: Gay life expectancy revisited)


says:


"...In contrast, if we were to repeat this analysis today the life expectancy of gay and bisexual men would be greatly improved. Deaths from HIV infection have declined dramatically in this population since 1996. As we have previously reported there has been a threefold decrease in mortality in Vancouver as well as in other parts of British Columbia"
This Vancouver was done by a pro-gay group... their response...

“The aim of our work,” said the research team, “was to assist health planners with the means of estimating the impact of HIV infection on groups, like gay and bisexual men, not necessarily captured by vital statistics data and not to hinder the rights of these groups worldwide. Overall, we do not condone the use of our research in a manner that restricts the political or human rights of gay and bisexual men or any other group.”

In other words, the data is accurate, they just didn't want the political opposition to use it for their purposes.

You want to lift up a lifestyle more dangerous than smoking - it's a free country.

CDC: HIV Among Gay and Bisexual Men
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Old 11-10-2015, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Basically some of you are saying - it should be OK to fill yourself up on doughnuts for breakfast, pop-tarts for lunch, and hot dogs/potato chips for dinner, along with washing it down with your favorite sugary drink, because that's what you want. It doesn't matter that it's a bunch of empty calories that does not provide the proper fuel for your body. If I love you, your diet should not matter - I should be OK with it - regardless that it will cause diabetes by the age of 30.

I would think that love would want the best for a person. The gay lifestyle is simply a sugary substitute for real healthy man/woman relationships for which we are designed.
The above is my November nominee - and current front-runner - for 2015's Silliest Post of the Year.
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Old 11-10-2015, 01:11 PM
 
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The above is my November nominee - and current front-runner - for 2015's Silliest Post of the Year.
I remain amazed at how much fundamentalists love gay sex. They cannot get enough of it. They aren't out feeding the hungry or tossing a ball with their kids..... they are reading up on all-things-gay.

It is mind-bending.
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Old 11-10-2015, 01:17 PM
 
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The above is my November nominee - and current front-runner - for 2015's Silliest Post of the Year.
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I remain amazed at how much fundamentalists love gay sex. They cannot get enough of it. They aren't out feeding the hungry or tossing a ball with their kids..... they are reading up on all-things-gay.

It is mind-bending.
Sometimes you have to kick the ant pile every so often just to see what happens...
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