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Old 09-29-2015, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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If you need 100% proof the bible is the inspired word of God, you have no faith and might as well not even believe in God at all.

You dont need to see the word homosexual. 2 dudes gettin it on is disgusting and unnatural. Two men cant reproduce and neither can 2 women, so it just goes agaisnt nature.
This is the crux of a fundy's bigotry.

Nada to do with god or sin.

It's icky. Because of course, all gays, male and female, really get off on nasty butt sex.

Fundies can hardly help thinking about it.

A lot....


 
Old 09-29-2015, 09:59 AM
 
Location: USA
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Another one who thinks the bible equals God.
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I never said the bible equals God, as God didnt write the bible. But I do believe he preserved it with the holy spirit through mankind, Moses...... Paul... and so on.

Even if changes have been made, the message of the bible is still clear to Love God and Love one another.
You said that if one doesn't believe the bible, they might as well not believe in God. You make it an equivalent.

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You dont Love Good if you are a practicing Homo, who disregards the commands of God to refrain from sexual immorality and the same can be said about heterosexuals who are fornicators and live a lifestyle of sexual immorality.
The best answer to this ^^^, is this:

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The life of the same-sex attracted fundamentalist Christian is one of the most agonizing, depressing lives possible. Basically, the person has two options and only two. The first one is to change their orientation through therapy or entering into a relationship with the opposite sex. This approach all but never works. The second option is to commit to lifelong celibacy, living out your days and dying alone. Add to this the fact your entire social circle consists of homophobes so you can never be honest or authentic about who you are and always must be on your toes about conforming to social norms. This is the same-sex attracted Christian's sentence. Basically the life is hell on earth. But somehow demanding people live such a life is supposed to be "good news" and the "loving" response to the issue of homosexuality.
To refrain from "sin" would bring healing, joy, peace, love, etc., to self and others. To deny one's sexual orientation brings none of that to anyone, which is a very good indication to me that it is not a sin.

 
Old 09-29-2015, 10:26 AM
 
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There it is again! Lol...why fundies think about other people, especially gays, having sex I do not know.
Believe me, we try not to think about.
 
Old 09-29-2015, 10:35 AM
 
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Believe me, we try not to think about.
Really? Hmmm.....it's not evident that your putting any effort into it. Try harder.
 
Old 09-29-2015, 10:36 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Another one who thinks the bible equals God.
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You said that if one doesn't believe the bible, they might as well not believe in God. You make it an equivalent.
Foolish rational .... even in human terms.

I bet however you would have no such rational if it comes to a person who has left you as the sole inheritance in their Will.
 
Old 09-29-2015, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Isn't the reality that most practicing homosexuals don't believe in God? I keep seeing "god" and that is a darn good indication of not believing. Then, what confuses me is that why someone who doesn't believe in "god" cares what Biblical doctrine says or those believing in "God" say.

As I have said before, many times, if you are having some anxiety and depression over your life, maybe there is a message there. Maybe it isn't your friends and family or the world that needs to change in order for you to be able to effectively cope with your life.

The article was excellent.

Sadly, many have reached the point of calling "good evil and evil good" and I doubt that will change for them. It might change in their head but not their heart as it takes awhile to get to that level and it would be a struggle that most couldn't endure to change that thought.

My brother has a female friend that invited him to go to a gay wedding at her church. She claims that it is her friend and that in going, it is not wrong because God knows what is in her heart. Of course, she says the same thing when he spends the weekend with another man than her husband. It is a very progressive church. God knows her heart?

The company you keep has a big impact on who you are and what you become over time.
 
Old 09-29-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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Foolish rational .... even in human terms.

I bet however you would have no such rational if it comes to a person who has left you as the sole inheritance in their Will.
Are you saying that you think the bible is a legal, binding document? You're going to approach the gates of heaven with bible in hand and say ... see it says thus and such right here in this book, this chapter and this verse, and since I believe it, you are legally obligated to let me in.
 
Old 09-29-2015, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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It's really not. Unless you can explain how a person being attracted to someone else, whether it is someone of the same or a different gender, is harmful to anyone, or non-loving, it doesn't make sense to call either of them a sin.
I'm not on here to prove I'm right- if you want to believe you are right, then have at it.
 
Old 09-29-2015, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Only to those lacking a certain level of cognition.
We can't all function at your level- you set too high of a bar!
 
Old 09-29-2015, 11:13 AM
 
Location: USA
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I'm not on here to prove I'm right- if you want to believe you are right, then have at it.
This isn't about proving someone is right or wrong. It's about a request to show how homosexuality is harmful or unloving, thus a sin. To date, no one that has been asked that on this forum has been able to.

Perhaps you could explain to me why you don't think that is an important thing to consider?
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