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Old 10-31-2015, 01:38 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Without some personal experience, how would you know they are evil?
The opposite of GOOD? Ain't that hard to know good from bad. HELP from HARM...

Do any evangelical fundies actually go to school and LEARN anything?

Gotta wonder if they know the difference between hot and cold, freedom and oppression. Lord knows they do not seem to know the difference between GRACE and the LAW.
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Old 10-31-2015, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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The opposite of GOOD? Ain't that hard to know good from bad. HELP from HARM...

Do any evangelical fundies actually go to school and LEARN anything?

Gotta wonder if they know the difference between hot and cold, freedom and oppression. Lord knows they do not seem to know the difference between GRACE and the LAW.
I know what evil is, but how do you know what a particular church is doing or not doing, without personal experence?

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Seriously, C-O-M-P-R-E-H-E-N-S-I-O-N -- it really is not that difficult if one has an adequate vocabulary..
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Old 10-31-2015, 04:11 PM
 
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I know what evil is, but how do you know what a particular church is doing or not doing, without personal experence?
Example-- Pastor wants $65 million for a lear Jet

Example-- Pastor involved in a sexual relationship outside marriage while condemning divorce

Example-- Single woman continues to have children outside of marriage while condemning premarital sex

Example-- Single man has sexual exploits with siblings while condemning others who have sex outside the bond of marriage

Sometimes all we need is to HEAR what the preach and SEE what the practice to know evil abides in heir temples.
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Old 10-31-2015, 04:49 PM
 
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Example-- Pastor wants $65 million for a lear Jet

Example-- Pastor involved in a sexual relationship outside marriage while condemning divorce

Example-- Single woman continues to have children outside of marriage while condemning premarital sex

Example-- Single man has sexual exploits with siblings while condemning others who have sex outside the bond of marriage

Sometimes all we need is to HEAR what the preach and SEE what the practice to know evil abides in heir temples.

You seem to have a predilection about sex? FYI, it's not the end all and be all of sin.
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Old 10-31-2015, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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You seem to have a predilection about sex? FYI, it's not the end all and be all of sin.
It's true.

Stanley knows from sin, already.

Oy.
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Old 10-31-2015, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Example-- Pastor wants $65 million for a lear Jet

Example-- Pastor involved in a sexual relationship outside marriage while condemning divorce

Example-- Single woman continues to have children outside of marriage while condemning premarital sex

Example-- Single man has sexual exploits with siblings while condemning others who have sex outside the bond of marriage

Sometimes all we need is to HEAR what the preach and SEE what the practice to know evil abides in heir temples.
If this info is public knowledge, you have a point. Is it?

*If I missed that information earlier, I apologize for the oversight.
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Old 11-01-2015, 05:54 AM
 
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You seem to have a predilection about sex? FYI, it's not the end all and be all of sin.
Sex is great. It is the evangelical crowd that is ashamed of sex in PUBLIC, but act like RABBITS behind closed doors while preaching IMMORALITY to others..
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Old 11-01-2015, 09:37 AM
 
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Sex is great. It is the evangelical crowd that is ashamed of sex in PUBLIC, but act like RABBITS behind closed doors while preaching IMMORALITY to others..

Didn't say it wasn't...just wondered why your view of sin is limited to sexual acts only? Do you not think other things enter into immorality? Like lying, murder, cheating or self centeredness?

I'm pretty sure exhibitionism is not acceptable by the vast majority, and what separates us from the apes is that we make it discreet and private, as it should be. The marriage bed is undefiled. Heb 14:4
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Old 11-01-2015, 11:46 AM
 
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Didn't say it wasn't...just wondered why your view of sin is limited to sexual acts only? Do you not think other things enter into immorality? Like lying, murder, cheating or self centeredness?

I'm pretty sure exhibitionism is not acceptable by the vast majority, and what separates us from the apes is that we make it discreet and private, as it should be. The marriage bed is undefiled. Heb 14:4
Cause felonies like embezzlement, murder, arson and other high end crimes are not generally committed by a large percentage of the population, where as the "sin" of single mothers (Bristol Palin condemning out of wedlock pregnancies) and JOSH DUGGAR (molesting his sisters while condemning the "sin" of homosexuality) has a much larger percentage of people that are being condemned by those who would hold positions of status and influence with in the institutionalized church.
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Old 11-01-2015, 02:06 PM
 
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Cause felonies like embezzlement, murder, arson and other high end crimes are not generally committed by a large percentage of the population, where as the "sin" of single mothers (Bristol Palin condemning out of wedlock pregnancies) and JOSH DUGGAR (molesting his sisters while condemning the "sin" of homosexuality) has a much larger percentage of people that are being condemned by those who would hold positions of status and influence with in the institutionalized church.
I don't think your assertions would hold up under the scrutiny of actual facts. Many people embezzle and never get caught, but you're just citing what is in the media spotlight. You'll see in the following studies that many crimes far outrank what you assert.
https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/201...-2013-released
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