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Old 11-17-2015, 03:47 PM
 
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See posts #623 & 625.
I'm not a fundamentalist looking at porn.

Tell them.
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Old 11-17-2015, 03:57 PM
 
Location: USA
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The solution is the blood of Christ, which covers sin. Believing (sincerely) causes Christ's righteousness to be imputed to the believer, resulting in salvation from the penalty of sin. A belief from the heart results in a "new man" or a desire to live righteously. That is called sanctification and is a lifelong process. It's impossible to live completely sinless in the flesh.
I'll just refer you to my response to Finn:

Christianity isn't offering anything that isn't available to everyone, regardless of their religious affiliation or lack thereof: it's called a conscience. Everyone has one and Christians and non-Christians alike pay attention to it at varying levels.
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Old 11-17-2015, 03:59 PM
 
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Christianity isn't offering anything that isn't available to everyone, regardless of their religious affiliation or lack thereof: it's called a conscience. Everyone has one and Christians and non-Christians alike pay attention to it at varying levels.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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I'll just refer you to my response to Finn:

Christianity isn't offering anything that isn't available to everyone, regardless of their religious affiliation or lack thereof: it's called a conscience. Everyone has one and Christians and non-Christians alike pay attention to it at varying levels.
Christianity offers redemption from sin, a new life in Christ, help in time of need, peace in times of trouble and a secure future.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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I'm not a fundamentalist looking at porn.

Tell them.
Of course not, but you are in error about Christianity.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:04 PM
 
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Well, of course (bolded above). I should be concerned with me. Nevertheless, to share the gospel with someone, you have to help them confront the sin that separates them from God.

Isaiah 59:2

It's your sins that have cut you off from God. Because of your sins, he has turned away and will not listen anymore.
I do not use your gospel to decide or interfere with my relationship with God. I believe your gospel is what separates people from God.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Well, in the spirit of being nice, I sure hope jimmie manages to do a little better in his struggle against his sinful nature. It sounds pretty awful. Kinda like always walking uphill. With shin splints and a bad knee. Ouch.

You have my pity, jimmie. Every fundamentalist does. Keep fighting!
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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When you stand before God, tell Him you take responsibility for your sins.
Me, I'll claim Jesus.
I do not have a fearful expectation.

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Old 11-17-2015, 04:15 PM
 
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Of course not, but you are in error about Christianity.
Let's see..... I avoid sin because I think it separates us from God. I avoid sin because sinning often hurts the people around us. I avoid sin because I have a conscience. I believe that when we do not sin.... God is pleased.

If you think I am in error about Christianity or you don't like my attitude about sin....whatever.... I can't change how you think so I'm not going to worry about it. To borrow a phrase from Ronkon..... God and I are old friends. I don't have to sit in a church and be told I'm a dirty sinner. Because I'm not. If you are and if you have issues and if sitting in your church helps you deal with all that..... be sure to put something in the collection plate so they can keep the lights on.

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Old 11-17-2015, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Christianity offers redemption from sin, a new life in Christ, help in time of need, peace in times of trouble and a secure future.
I won't quibble about the first two, albeit their questionable (IMO) value to the average human, but the last three? Really? Given the documented number of Christians in the U.S. alone, and the prevalence of mental illness, poverty and random and domestic violence in the general population... I really have to question such a broad brush suite of positive attributes to a Christian outlook.
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