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Originally Posted by Sephiroth777
I believe it all, 100%. We love Jesus. Love is more Important to us than following antichrists teachings,,and Jesus does have some good teachings. We love Jesus, and are with him, especially when Antichrist turns on him.
How did you become convinced this is what you should believe in?
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Oh, no. Sorry about the confusion, but I was taught it as a kid, growing up in the catholic church, at Caticism. Catholics love Jesus.
Do you think that if you grew up, say in the Middle East, that you would have been taught to be a Muslim (or maybe a Jew if in Israel)? In other words, do you feel culturally you were taught the Catholic (Christian) teachings and would another culture have influenced you differently?
Do you think that if you grew up, say in the Middle East, that you would have been taught to be a Muslim (or maybe a Jew if in Israel)? In other words, do you feel culturally you were taught the Catholic (Christian) teachings and would another culture have influenced you differently?
Well, I knew the teachings, but haveing freewill, I didn't apply them being young, until they had real meaning and I saw how they were right and were true. Its my book in life, my journey. So, maybe I would have seen the truths regardless, at some time, because they are true.
Correct. What makes you think a picture or a statue can do something, we don't. Haveing a picture of your mother does not mean your mother is right there having a conversation with you so why would you keep a picture of her?
Amen. The statues and crucifixes just help for imagination purposes. Imagination is a god given right and talent.
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Well, I knew the teachings, but haveing freewill, I didn't apply them being young, until they had real meaning and I saw how they were right and were true. Its my book in life, my journey. So, maybe I would have seen the truths regardless, at some time, because they are true.
As you may be aware, I am an atheist, however, I went to a Catholic school and had nuns and even a priest as teachers. I became more convinced that faith does not trump facts that are able to be falsifiable, which is the basis of science and reason. When I went on to university, and took comparative religious studies as my minor.
Those courses showed me more and more that religions are man made, and not divinely inspired at all. They reflected the cultures of the time and place that they were developed. As such, we have Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, Shintos, Meso-American, African tribal and a plethora of other world views developed, practiced and promulgated. All of these reflect the culture of the area. So for all of these world views, what is true for them is the truth, even if it differs from yours.
[quote=cupper3;44527012]As you may be aware, I am an atheist, however, I went to a Catholic school and had nuns and even a priest as teachers. I became more convinced that faith does not trump facts that are able to be falsifiable, which is the basis of science and reason. When I went on to university, and took comparative religious studies as my minor.
How are these facts able to be falsifiable?
Those courses showed me more and more that religions are man made, and not divinely inspired at all. They reflected the cultures of the time and place that they were developed. As such, we have Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, Shintos, Meso-American, African tribal and a plethora of other world views developed, practiced and promulgated. All of these reflect the culture of the area. So for all of these world views, what is true for them is the truth, even if it differs from yours.
Churches and religions are not man made. If some are, they could be right in their own way. In how they choose to see it. And I don't care if world religions differ from views of the catholic church, they may be right in their own way, and can still be good people, but have slightly different views. So what. Doesn't bother Me,just don't try to force anything on me.
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The concern with falsifiability gained attention by way of philosopher of science Karl Popper's scientific epistemology "falsificationism". Popper stresses the problem of demarcation—distinguishing the scientific from the unscientific—and makes falsifiability the demarcation criterion, such that what is unfalsifiable is classified as unscientific, and the practice of declaring an unfalsifiable theory to be scientifically true is pseudoscience.
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Judge William Overton used falsifiability in the McLean v. Arkansas ruling in 1982 as one of the criteria to determine that "creation science" was not scientific and should not be taught in Arkansas public schools as such (it can be taught as religion). The argument was presented by philosopher, Michael Ruse, who defined the characteristics which constitute science as explanatory, testable, and tentative; the latter of the three being another term for falsifiability.[8] In his conclusion related to this criterion Judge Overton stated that "[w]hile anybody is free to approach a scientific inquiry in any fashion they choose, they cannot properly describe the methodology as scientific, if they start with the conclusion and refuse to change it regardless of the evidence developed during the course of the investigation."
United States law also enshrined falsifiability as part of the Daubert Standard set by the United States Supreme Court for whether scientific evidence is admissible in a jury trial.
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Churches and religions are not man made. If some are, they could be right in their own way. In how they choose to see it. And I don't care if world religions differ from views of the catholic church, they may be right in their own way, and can still be good people, but have slightly different views. So what. Doesn't bother Me,just don't try to force anything on me.
If religions are not man-made, why is there such a plethora of them, and all the variations within? Morality is not defined by religion, but by cultures and the humans that live in them. Certainly no Catholic I know of today thinks that the Inquisitions were moral, but the Catholic church certainly ordained them to be at the time. That kind of fluidity in what is dogma can only come from humans.
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