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Old 12-18-2015, 04:20 PM
 
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Hmmm. And I know for sure that Elohim is.

Elohim is not a name--it is a Hebrew word that carries various meanings. God-for the true God)--gods for pagan false trinity gods. majestic, etc--various meanings. but the Hebrew translating rule = never plural when used for the true God. Because the God of Israel in the ot is a single being God=Fact--and this Fact as well--God does not change.
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Old 12-18-2015, 04:52 PM
 
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Would "logic" tell you that God would divide the Red Sea? Make manna appear in the wilderness? Keep the shoes of the Israelits from wearing out? Make the sun stand still for a day?

Maybe you don't actually believe the Hebrew scriptures when it says all those things happened. But if so...then you believe that God does a lot of things that defy the physical world.
What do any of those have to do with the Trinity?...And those "miracles" have been proven but on a scientific basis...G-d just utilized nature to do these things...The Red Sea, there is a caldera in the Mediterranean where an Island was and happened to blow up at the right time sucking the water into the Mediterranean from the Red Sea allowing the Israelites to cross and the waters came rushing back in just as the Egyptian Army was crossing after them, causing their deaths...Timing was perfect...It was a natural disaster...Same with the deaths of the first-born of Egypt...Natural disaster...Same with the Nile turning to "blood"...Natural disaster...You would know all this if you would bother to research it out, but, you don't...G-d does not defy the physical laws that he has set up to function in the universe...He works within the parameters that He has set in place...

BTW, Manna still exists...Read an article on it...
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Old 12-18-2015, 09:42 PM
 
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Elohim is not a name--it is a Hebrew word that carries various meanings.
Thanks for your input. I respectfully disagree.
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Old 12-18-2015, 11:42 PM
 
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Thanks for your input. I respectfully disagree.
Nah, Kat, it really isn't a name, it is a noun that has a sense of "the Powers" [that be]...However, Jehovah is not His Name either...It is in the same category as G-d, this isn't His Name either, it is a title...
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Old 12-19-2015, 12:03 AM
 
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Nah, Kat, it really isn't a name, it is a noun that has a sense of "the Powers" [that be]...However, Jehovah is not His Name either...It is in the same category as G-d, this isn't His Name either, it is a title...
Richard are you another one of those people claiming to possess the real secret name of God??? Care to tell the rest of us what God's name actually is then???
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Old 12-19-2015, 12:12 AM
 
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richard are you another one of those people claiming to possess the real secret name of god??? Care to tell the rest of us what god's name actually is then???
יהוה‎
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Old 12-19-2015, 12:13 AM
 
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Richard are you another one of those people claiming to possess the real secret name of God??? Care to tell the rest of us what God's name actually is then???
BTW, It's not a secret...Every Jew knows what it is and how to pronounce it...
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Old 12-19-2015, 12:19 AM
 
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Richard are you another one of those people claiming to possess the real secret name of God??? Care to tell the rest of us what God's name actually is then???
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יהוה‎
The tetragrammaton??? What version do you accept, Yahweh, Jehovah, or something else???
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Old 12-19-2015, 12:23 AM
 
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The tetragrammaton??? What version do you accept, Yahweh, Jehovah, or something else???
None of those...But especially Jehovah, since there is no "J" in Hebrew and the YOD at the beginning of the word has always been a "Y" sound, and when the Name was used on a regular basis, the VAV (WAW) did not have the sound of "V", that is more recent, it had the sound of a "W", however, depending on the Nikkud, the VAV (WAW) may have an "OH" sound or a "OO" sound, while the "HEY" at the end of the word is silent..
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Old 12-19-2015, 12:30 AM
 
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The tetragrammaton??? What version do you accept, Yahweh, Jehovah, or something else???
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BTW, It's not a secret...Every Jew knows what it is and how to pronounce it...
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None of those...But especially Jehovah, since there is no "J" in Hebrew and the YOD at the beginning of the word has always been a "Y" sound, and when the Name was used on a regular basis, the VAV (WAW) did not have the sound of "V", that is more recent, it had the sound of a "W", however, depending on the Nikkud, the VAV (WAW) may have an "OH" sound or a "OO" sound, while the "HEY" at the end of the word is silent..
If it is not a secret, how would YOU (as a Jew) say it should be represented? I have seen you use Hashem seemingly to reference God, or was I mistaken??
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