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Old 01-06-2016, 12:15 PM
 
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The Bible really doesn't say why God saves some and not others. We certainly are not save by "being worthy", as you suggest. But you do have the rest correct -- God has chosen to save some but not the rest.

Enjoy your special status while you can, I guess -- if such a thing as knowing that 99% of your fellow human beings are destined for such an unimaginably horrific fate doesn't tarnish your joy about being special, you are not as saved as you think you are.
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:27 PM
 
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Enjoy your special status while you can, I guess -- if such a thing as knowing that 99% of your fellow human beings are destined for such an unimaginably horrific fate doesn't tarnish your joy about being special, you are not as saved as you think you are.
That is what you end up with the very convenient doctrine of separation from God, which riddles you with a division mentality and you interpret the scriptures by it. We are sheep they are goats, we are saved they are not, we are believers they aren't, we are chosen they are not. When you have people (like pastors) who are in supposed leadership roles preaching through the centuries such vileness and have the nerve to call it truth, it shows how far off we are in the true respect of the very being of God which is Life,love and beauty.
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:31 PM
 
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Enjoy your special status while you can, I guess -- if such a thing as knowing that 99% of your fellow human beings are destined for such an unimaginably horrific fate doesn't tarnish your joy about being special, you are not as saved as you think you are.
I have never said I was special. You realize that, right? Nothing about me qualified me to be saved by God. His goodness is such that he saves people that hate him and are at war with him. That includes me. I'm not special.
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:35 PM
 
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I have never said I was special. You realize that, right? Nothing about me qualified me to be saved by God. His goodness is such that he saves people that hate him and are at war with him. That includes me. I'm not special.
You are among the 1% that God decided to save from an eternity of torment. How much more special do you need to be?
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:39 PM
 
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You are among the 1% that God decided to save from an eternity of torment. How much more special do you need to be?
But it's not based on me. Nothing about me caused him to do that. It's entirely based on HIS goodness.
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:44 PM
 
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But it's not based on me. Nothing about me caused him to do that. It's entirely based on HIS goodness.
What is it to them he's not chosen ..... His goodness or his badness?.
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Old 01-06-2016, 01:14 PM
 
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What is it to them he's not chosen ..... His goodness or his badness?.
I'm wondering what the odds are that Viz will not answer this.
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Old 01-06-2016, 01:18 PM
 
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I'm wondering what the odds are that Viz will not answer this.
The answer is simple. Who are we to question God.... he can do what he wants I am greater than this concept of god and can save all from it who believe in me .
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Old 01-06-2016, 01:22 PM
 
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What is it to them he's not chosen ..... His goodness or his badness?.
His justice. It's good, because He's just. He doesn't just ignore sin...no, he's too Holy for that. He has to punish sin...and he will.
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Old 01-06-2016, 01:25 PM
 
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His justice. It's good, because He's just. He doesn't just ignore sin...no, he's too Holy for that. He has to punish sin...and he will.
But he chose you in spite of your sin. I pray you will see your ignorance so you do not continue to perish in such a belief
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