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I agree that all is or will be subject to Christ. As I explained:
I truly do appreciate your explanations, C.G.
Do you then believe that every creature will be arranged under the Lord Jesus Christ, & that said subjection is one rooted in obedience and submission to His control? Do you believe that every creature will ultimately yield to His admonition and control in obedience? I do! And I further believe that this subjection of all things under His glorious feet shall surely be an attitude of voluntarily giving in with a spirit of utter cooperation. Yup, I surely do!
Do you then believe that every creature will be arranged under the Lord Jesus Christ, & that said subjection is one rooted in obedience and submission to His control? Do you believe that every creature will ultimately yield to His admonition and control in obedience? I do! And I further believe that this subjection of all things under His glorious feet shall surely be an attitude of voluntarily giving in with a spirit of utter cooperation. Yup, I surely do!
And I believe Jesus.
Matthew 16:24 ¶ Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. 26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? 27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Matthew 16:24 ¶ Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Am I to understand you correctly. You believe Jesus, but the entire words of the prophets who the Master quotes consistently, and apostles who walked with Him for 3 1/2 years must be discarded. Common C.G.! The Master spoke words in parables for a reason, and at the close of His ministry, with His disciples around Him, declared, "there are many things I would say unto you, but you are not able."
The words of the apostle St. Paul, filling at least 13 epistles, are the ongoing revelation of the things the Master desired to speak, but "you are not able". Do you really think that the meaning of hupotasso is in discord with the Master? Perhaps St. Paul did not see the Christ that remarkable day in the Blaze from His Presence? Did he not understand that apollumi is a word that encompasses salvation? Evidently he did not.
Am I to understand you correctly. You believe Jesus, but the entire words of the prophets who the Master quotes consistently, and apostles who walked with Him for 3 1/2 years must be discarded.
Jesus is the center. The prophets and the apostles built on Him. If the way we interpret scripture discounts the words of Jesus, we are talking about Another Jesus .
Jesus is the center. The prophets and the apostles built on Him. If the way we interpret scripture discounts the words of Jesus, we are talking about..
Jesus Christ is indeed the Center. And it is in Him that our Father's plan of the ages is consummated. That is precisely what is meant when we read of everything within the heavens and the earth being summarized in the Son. Take a moment sometime, C.G. and explore what ta pavnte means. I assure you that it is the all, the whole enchilada that is reconciled to Him. Not saved only, reconciled in mind and spirit and heart!
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Through the Son God made the whole universe, and to the Son He has ordained all creation shall ultimately belong.
Do you believe that the author of at least 13 epistles of the Living Oracles built on Him? I do! What did he disclose in the sacred secrets?
Jesus Christ is indeed the Center. And it is in Him that our Father's plan of the ages is consummated. That is precisely what is meant when we read of everything within the heavens and the earth being summarized in the Son. Take a moment sometime, C.G. and explore what ta pavnte means. I assure you that it is the all, the whole enchilada that is reconciled to Him. Not saved only, reconciled in mind and spirit and heart!
Do you believe that the author of at least 13 epistles of the Living Oracles built on Him? I do! What did he disclose in the sacred secrets?
Only the Holy Spirit can lead one into all truth, the epistles when properly guided are part of the truth, but far from the whole truth.
Only Christ can reveal the full measure of the divine nature and godliness.
Only the Holy Spirit can lead one into all truth, the epistles when properly guided are part of the truth, but far from the whole truth.
Only Christ can reveal the full measure of the divine nature and godliness.
godspeed,
freedom
The Spirit of the Lord leads into all truth, and the Spirit of the Lord manifests the deep things of God, and the musterion secrets that surround His Being. Jesus Christ, the monogenes Son, is within the bosom of the Father disclosing Him by way of the promised Spirit.
Jesus Christ declares in no uncertain terms, "no man can come to Me, except the Father which has sent Me draw Him." The drawing, dragging off, impelling, is strickly on the foundation of the Father's prevenient grace and drawing power. Looking away unto Jesus is an act that begins and ends in Him. "Our eyes are fixed on Jesus on whom faith depends from start to finish..."
The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the whole world says "no man can come to Me, except..." Oh the mighty excepts of God....no man comes except the Father draw Him. And the prophets, singing in antiphonal agreement of union with the Son and the Spirit write, "and they shall all be taught of God."
Coming to the Son requires the pre-emptive strike of the drawing of the Father. It does not begin in us, and like repentance "is granted" or "is given."
And the process of approach to Him is summed up by the Son Himself...
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Every man therefore that has heard, and has learned of the Father, comes to Me.
The Foundation Of Coming To The Lord Jesus Christ
1. The drawing, dragging off, impelling of the Father to the Son.
2. Hearing the call.
3. Learning of the Father.
This is Christ's own declaration, 'I will draw all men unto me.' Therein consists its potency for men: not in Christ's satisfaction of justice by suffering a legal penalty, but in that the cross is the supreme expression of a divine spirit of love, truth, mercy, brotherhood, faith, ministry, unselfishness, holiness, - a spirit which goes out to men with divine intensity of purpose and yearning to draw them into its own sphere, and to make them partakers of its own eternal quality. This was a fact before the foundation of the world, is a fact today, and will be a fact so long as any life remains unreconciled to God. Atonement is eternal in virtue of the eternal spirit of Christ through which he offered himself to God. -Dr. Marvin Vincent-
The Holy Spirit draws man to the Father and Son. Then the Father draws man to the Son and the Son draws men to Father.
Then I have seen how the Father gives Jesus the words to say to us "come unto Me" and that "I Am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Hummmm
Then I have heard Jesus say, that (John 3:16-21) "The Father so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
"He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe in the name is condemn already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
But he who does the truth comes into the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God."
So it seems to me that the Father draws the heart and the heart says yes and amen or no I don't want it....Hmmmmmm, so then salvation doesn't depend on me but I have a choice if I want it or not. Do I love the darkness more than the light? Or the Light more than the darkness?
Condemn: express disapproval of; denounce. To convict. To sentence to punishment. To declare unfit for use.
God Bless!!
So it seems to me that the Father draws the heart and the heart says yes and amen or no I don't want it....Hmmmmmm, so then salvation doesn't depend on me but I have a choice if I want it or not. Do I love the darkness more than the light? Or the Light more than the darkness?
Condemn: express disapproval of; denounce. To convict. To sentence to punishment. To declare unfit for use.
God Bless!!
Curly: the fact is none of us are fit for use! Do you know what a saint is? A saint is a most holy thing whose roots are an awful thing transformed by the power of Living God.
The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the whole world says "no man can come to Me, except..." Oh the mighty excepts of God....no man comes except the Father draw Him. And the prophets, singing in antiphonal agreement of union with the Son and the Spirit write, "and they shall all be taught of God."
Amen. "From Him, through Him, and to Him are all things" God bless.
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