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Old 03-07-2016, 10:54 AM
Status: "Build the damn wall!" (set 4 days ago)
 
Location: The Haunted Mansion
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It about the man loving his wife like Christ love the church, more than a women submitting to a bully.
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Love me like a church? It sounds less than appealing
Not a church, but the Church.

Ephesians 5:25-28

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless. 28 So husbands ought also to love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself; 29 for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ also does the church, 30 because we are members of His body.

 
Old 03-07-2016, 01:12 PM
 
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Another prime example of how some dinosaurs - of the spiritual sort - still exist.
You are a trip, Trout!! LOL
 
Old 03-07-2016, 01:24 PM
 
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Alluding back to the spiritual principles in my first post on this subject a few pages back, anybody here ever break a horse?


The best way is not to beat it into submission, but quiet words, a loving touch, something sweet, taking care of any wounds it may have gotten, until it recognizes that you care for it and it willingly follows you. Then you add a light burden, gaining it's trust, then a heavier one, utilizing all of the first steps at the same time. Pretty soon, you have a relationship built on trust because the creature knows you care for it already and any fears it has it will overcome quickly.


The role of the spirit of the husbandman is not different in how you woo the soul of another, whether it be in a male body or a female body. What do you think the white horse (cleansed redeemed soul) is He returns through? It says we are His horse in the battle. He wants a submissive horse that will turn on a dime out of love, not out of fear. Don't we all?


Or you can just jump on it's back, and beat the hell out of it until it's spirit is broken, deprive it of basic needs as "punishment" and it walks with you out of fear of retribution. Peace
 
Old 03-07-2016, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Alluding back to the spiritual principles in my first post on this subject a few pages back, anybody here ever break a horse?


The best way is not to beat it into submission, but quiet words, a loving touch, something sweet, taking care of any wounds it may have gotten, until it recognizes that you care for it and it willingly follows you. Then you add a light burden, gaining it's trust, then a heavier one, utilizing all of the first steps at the same time. Pretty soon, you have a relationship built on trust because the creature knows you care for it already and any fears it has it will overcome quickly.


The role of the spirit of the husbandman is not different in how you woo the soul of another, whether it be in a male body or a female body. What do you think the white horse (cleansed redeemed soul) is He returns through? It says we are His horse in the battle. He wants a submissive horse that will turn on a dime out of love, not out of fear. Don't we all?


Or you can just jump on it's back, and beat the hell out of it until it's spirit is broken, deprive it of basic needs as "punishment" and it walks with you out of fear of retribution. Peace
One of the great joys in my life was training the two foals that my mare produced from the time they were old enough to wear a halter. It was a great relationship with both of them.


My wife? Not so much.
 
Old 03-07-2016, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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No it is not.It is about weak men wanting to control their wives using the authority of God. No one gets any authority from God to assert over anyone else, period. We are all equal in God's eyes. It is a human fiction created during a time when women were mere chattel that has no place in a modern civil society.
There are still churches in America where women are forbidden to cut their hair, wear make-up, wear pants, or even associate with those who do those things. That is just a step away from requiring women to wear hi-jabs and burkas. The organized churches in the U.S. are filled with misogyny which is why the divorce rates among Christians is as high in Christian circles (if not higher) than in the secular world.
 
Old 03-07-2016, 06:29 PM
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There are still churches in America where women are forbidden to cut their hair, wear make-up, wear pants, or even associate with those who do those things. That is just a step away from requiring women to wear hi-jabs and burkas. The organized churches in the U.S. are filled with misogyny which is why the divorce rates among Christians is as high in Christian circles (if not higher) than in the secular world.
Those churches represent a small % of Christian denominations.
 
Old 03-07-2016, 06:36 PM
 
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Not a church, but the Church.

Ephesians 5:25-28

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless. 28 So husbands ought also to love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself; 29 for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ also does the church, 30 because we are members of His body.
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This is it in a nutshell
 
Old 03-07-2016, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Dothan AL
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Not a church, but the Church.
I am not the 'old timey' type.
 
Old 03-07-2016, 06:39 PM
 
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This is it in a nutshell
If you are a nut.
 
Old 03-07-2016, 06:40 PM
 
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Those churches represent a small % of Christian denominations.
And that is only because those churches do not have the earning/collection potential of the majority churches. The larger churches (SBC, evangelical) are as successful financially as they are because they know how to market themselves. Always changing and adjusting with the times.

It is ALL about money.
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