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Old 02-24-2016, 11:02 PM
 
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This would never be spoken by someone who has learned how to "lawfully" discern the truth of the scriptures.
Yeah, right and the way to lawfully discern the scriptures is the way YOU do it????
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Old 02-25-2016, 02:25 AM
 
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Yeah, right and the way to lawfully discern the scriptures is the way YOU do it????
God gave us laws for determining the truth in the Bible, first to Moses and then repeated in the NT by Jesus and the apostles

You should try using them, they are so simple even one with such low Biblical understanding as yourself would benefit by learning them

Because you refuse them you remain ignorant of what God and the Bible teaches about who will acquire Godly wisdom
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Old 02-25-2016, 02:34 AM
 
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Jesus is the resurrection

There are only two men and their descendants in all of the Bible, or for that matter in the world

One is Adam and the other is Jesus who is the "last Adam"

In Adam all men are born into death until the time through Jesus Christ they are born again into the resurrection that is not our resurrection as much as it is the resurrection of Jesus in us………… so Paul taught "in Christ all are made alive"

Every person dies physically at some point in time and when they do they go from "now is the day of salvation" unto now is the day of THEIR judgment for better or worse………… yet Paul says there are those who will not die but all will be changed. This last thought has a lot of different ways of being believed by different persons.
Are you telling this more to me, or to yourself? It doesn't seem like you focused on any of my points. The only thing relevant is the bold, but it casts even more shadow and confusion into the idea I thought Paul said in his mentioned quote about the Sleeping Dead. Still, your last sentence pretty much sums up the problem with all the various Fundamentalisms.
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Old 02-25-2016, 02:42 AM
 
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"Romanized" his name into Paul? What are you talking about? Saul was His Hebrew language name, Paul was the Greek equivalent, and Greek was the "State" language of the day. Peace
Peace indeed. Paul was the "Romanized version" not the "equivalent (if you mean equivalent by meaning or sound)."
He literally writes that he Romanized it (as in "used the Roman equivalent"). Here, check out this explanation -->
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Paul was a Jew, born in the Roman city of Tarsus. He was proud of his Jewish heritage, as he describes in Philippians 3:5: “Circumcised on the eight day, of the race of Israel, or the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrew parentage, in observance of the law a Pharisee.” So zealous and devout was he that persecuting Christians was the natural way for him to show his devotion. He chose to use his Hebrew name, Saul, until sometime after he began to believe in and preach Christ. After that time, as “the apostle to the Gentiles” (Romans 11:13), he used his Roman name, Paul. It would make sense for Paul to use his Roman name as he travelled farther and farther into the Gentile world.

It is interesting that Paul began using his Roman name on Cyprus when the Roman proconsul on that island was converted (Acts 13:12). This was during Paul’s first missionary journey and involved a high-ranking, idolatrous Gentile coming to faith in Christ. The fact that the proconsul’s name was Sergius Paulus has led some to think that Saul took the name Paulus/Paul as a reminder of this event, but the apostle’s name being the same as the proconsul’s is most likely a coincidence.

Using his Roman name was fitting for the man who proclaimed that he would become “all things to all people,” a Jew to the Jews in order to win the Jews, weak to the weak in order to win the weak, etc., all for the sake of the gospel (1 Corinthians 9:19–23). Adopting his Roman name would allow Paul to approach the Gentiles to whom he was sent and speak to them in their own language, becoming as one of them and setting them at ease. It is also possible that Paul gave up the use of his Hebrew name, Saul, with its regal connotation and chose to use his Roman name, Paul, meaning “little” or “small,” because he desired to became smaller in order to present Christ as greater (cf. John 3:30).
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The name Saul is a Hebrew baby name. In Hebrew the meaning of the name Saul is: Asked for; inquired of God. The first king of Israel was named Saul, and the Hebrew name of the Apostle Paul.
Little =/= Asked for

He Romanized his name, as many Jews were often doing depending on circumstances in order to fit in better (I doubt using "Saul" was illegal or unspeakable in Greece).

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Old 02-25-2016, 02:48 AM
 
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Luminous Truth. Is that an oxymoron?
Only if Truth is dark and doesn't illuminate.
Age Enduring is more of an oxymoron, really.
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Old 02-25-2016, 02:51 AM
 
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@Rbbi1: Amen!, and a whole chorus of Amens!

That is the most anointed post written on CD today.
We are all very glad some of you anointed it so much, but I wouldn't even nominate it for an award in cooking.

You guys should probably copy and distribute it as Holy Scripture, however... If it's so "anointed".

But be aware that a man has no greater love than to keep himself alive for his friends, and to live for them and to love all, even those who don't worship the man.
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Old 02-25-2016, 02:53 AM
 
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Oh I see. So after humans filled the earth, we were supposed to stop having babies? Is that the idea?
I'm not sure when to consider it "perfectly filled."
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Old 02-25-2016, 03:28 AM
 
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Only if Truth is dark and doesn't illuminate.
Age Enduring is more of an oxymoron, really.
No. Truth just IS.

Read Schopenhauer.
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Old 02-25-2016, 03:28 AM
 
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Are you telling this more to me, or to yourself? It doesn't seem like you focused on any of my points. The only thing relevant is the bold, but it casts even more shadow and confusion into the idea I thought Paul said in his mentioned quote about the Sleeping Dead. Still, your last sentence pretty much sums up the problem with all the various Fundamentalisms.
Trying to get you to see the differences in types of death in the Bible and what is the resurrection

God calls those as though they are even though they are not YET

Because man is born already condemned unto death they remain "dead in their sins" to Him until through His Son they may pass from death unto life
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Old 02-25-2016, 05:07 AM
 
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We are all very glad some of you anointed it so much, but I wouldn't even nominate it for an award in cooking.

You guys should probably copy and distribute it as Holy Scripture, however... If it's so "anointed".

But be aware that a man has no greater love than to keep himself alive for his friends, and to live for them and to love all, even those who don't worship the man.
Here we go, ...Black is white and vice versa.

You won't recognise the anointing as Rbbi1 pointed out in the other post, because there is no Word in you, yet. Hence why you believe black is white, and self more important than other. Come on, this is elementary. Give your life to God and He gives it back to you, only better. He's only trying to kill your carnal nature.

For the record then, your belief is opposite to the truth. That no greater love a man has than to GIVE his life for his friend.
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