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Old 02-27-2016, 05:12 PM
Status: "Build the damn wall!" (set 28 days ago)
 
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You're not anti science? Here's a question for you . In order to believe in creationism, how many branches of science do you think you have to deny? (Hint. It's more than just biology)
Nonsense! Science does not negate a creator.
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Old 02-27-2016, 05:25 PM
 
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Nonsense! Science does not negate a creator.
Are you aware that creationism and evolution does not reference the same process?

Let's accept some life was started by some "designer". Just to remove that from the discussion.

If you do not understand evolution, as the original question stated, what branches of science, other than biology, do you think are not accurate in describing that process? Why?
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Old 02-27-2016, 05:41 PM
 
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Nonsense! We see some our brightest and most driven kids being the most serious about their Christian walk.
"Brightest and most driven "
by whose definition?
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Old 02-27-2016, 07:14 PM
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"Brightest and most driven "
by whose definition?
Society.
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Old 02-27-2016, 07:33 PM
 
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I have seen it myself at my church for over 20 years, as these youth sang in the childrens choir, was in Sunday school, every church play, accepted Jesus as a teen and by time they are over 18 and go off to college 2/3 never come back and when they do, they are a completely different person spiritually.
I know the adults lead by example, so if grown ups are late to church all the time, why should a child then young adult want to come on time either. If many of the adults dont read their bibles, there is no way they can answer a young adults question other than say go ask the pastor.
Can anything be done to reverse this trend or this is just the future or Christian youth?
What do you think of the words at 2nd Timothy 3:1-5,13 in connection to our day ?
Those verses describe the selfish distorted form of love the world now displays.
That is in sharp contrast with the definition of godly love as defined at 1st Corinthians 13:4-6

Please also remember Jesus compared out day to Noah's day - Matthew 24:37
The majority of those people loved violence - Genesis 6:11; Psalm 11:5
So, what we are seeing today is the ' final phase ', so to speak, of Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8
And we are also nearing the ' final signal ', so to speak, of 1st Thessalonians 5:2-3 that when ' they '( powers that be ) will be saying, " Peace and Security " as a precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14, before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, will usher in global Peace on Earth among men of goodwill.

The words from Jesus' mouth will execute the wicked - Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:11,14-15; Jeremiah 25:31-33.
So, as the majority of people were beyond reform, beyond repentance, in Noah's day, the world scene today is showing a large number of people are drying up spiritually, and we thus are nearing the soon coming ' time of separation ' on earth as mentioned at Matthew 25:31-33,37.
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Old 02-27-2016, 07:35 PM
 
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I would agree with you regarding evolution, accepting women,and the LGBTQ. But, personally I've seen too many talking mules and snakes on these very forums to deny they exist.:
I do like how your mind works!
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Old 02-27-2016, 08:15 PM
 
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Nonsense! Science does not negate a creator.
Your reply in no way addressing what I actually said . Let's try this again. How many branches of science does a creationist have to deny? Again, it's more than one .

But yes, science does negate any creator that does not work through evolution over millions of years . But please answer the question above .
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Old 02-27-2016, 08:17 PM
 
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Are you aware that creationism and evolution does not reference the same process?
"Creationism", as its commonly talked about, is the belief that God created the entire known universe in six literal days roughly 6,000 years ago. From that comes all kinds of beliefs that are incompatible with science, such as man walked with dinosaurs, people living 900 years old, and a literal global flood that raised sea level to the top of Mt Everest. This is the belief system that younger people are walking away from, because despite attempts by creationists like Ken Ham to come up scientific evidence to back that belief, it doesn't hold up to real scientific scrutiny.

I don't consider old-earth, theistic evolutionists to be "creationists" when discussing this topic, even though they may claim to believe in creation.
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Old 02-27-2016, 08:19 PM
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Your reply in no way addressing what I actually said . Let's try this again. How many branches of science does a creationist have to deny? Again, it's more than one .

But yes, science does negate any creator that does not work through evolution over millions of years . But please answer the question above .
Why do you think a creator could not work millions of years?
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Old 02-27-2016, 08:21 PM
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"Creationism", as its commonly talked about, is the belief that God created the entire known universe in six literal days roughly 6,000 years ago. From that comes all kinds of beliefs that are incompatible with science, such as man walked with dinosaurs, people living 900 years old, and a literal global flood that raised sea level to the top of Mt Everest. This is the belief system that younger people are walking away from, because despite attempts by creationists like Ken Ham to come up scientific evidence to back that belief, it doesn't hold up to real scientific scrutiny.

I don't consider old-earth, theistic evolutionists to be "creationists" when discussing this topic, even though they may claim to believe in creation.
Not all creationists believe in a literal 6-day creation.
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