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Old 03-04-2016, 02:43 PM
 
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Really? Did you not read the verse? Whose soldiers were they? Do you think they were Jewish?
Absolutely the Jews had their own men. They were known as the Jewish Temple Guard, technically neophyte priests, but in reality very highly trained fighting men whose job it was to protect the sanctity of the Jewish Temple. Protocol would have dictated that the Chief priests of the nation have a contingent of these men already right at hand as members of their personal bodyguard when on business to the Roman governor. It is to this group that Pilate is indicating when he points out to the priests that "You have a guard."

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...26&version=CEV

[i]Luke 22:
[52] Then Jesus said unto the chief priests, and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves?

John.18
[12] Then the band and the captain and officers of the Jews took Jesus, and bound him,

Acts.4
[1] And as they spake unto the people, the priests, and the captain of the temple, and the Sadducees, came upon them,

Acts.5
[24] Now when the high priest and the captain of the temple and the chief priests heard these things, they doubted of them whereunto this would grow.
[26] Then went the captain with the officers, and brought them without violence: for they feared the people, lest they should have been stoned.
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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Absolutely the Jews had their own men. They were known as the Jewish Temple Guard, technically neophyte priests, but in reality very highly trained fighting men whose job it was to protect the sanctity of the Jewish Temple. Protocol would have dictated that the Chief priests of the nation have a contingent of these men already right at hand as members of their personal bodyguard when on business to the Roman governor. It is to this group that Pilate is indicating when he points out to the priests that "You have a guard."

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...26&version=CEV

[i]Luke 22:
[52] Then Jesus said unto the chief priests, and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves?

John.18
[12] Then the band and the captain and officers of the Jews took Jesus, and bound him,

Acts.4
[1] And as they spake unto the people, the priests, and the captain of the temple, and the Sadducees, came upon them,

Acts.5
[24] Now when the high priest and the captain of the temple and the chief priests heard these things, they doubted of them whereunto this would grow.
[26] Then went the captain with the officers, and brought them without violence: for they feared the people, lest they should have been stoned.

One has to wonder about a lot of people in high places. Jerusalem had become a province of Rome and I can't help but think that the Romans easily excelled who they wanted to excel. I look at Herod more of a Samaritan than I would ever see him as a Jew, a half breed.


But his hands show what he is, and it didn't look like a Jew to me.


But then I am not certain about all that, but after 30 years of Roman rule and Rome deciding who is who seems like it would come with the territory, putting evil men in high places.
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:36 PM
 
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One has to wonder about a lot of people in high places. Jerusalem had become a province of Rome and I can't help but think that the Romans easily excelled who they wanted to excel. I look at Herod more of a Samaritan than I would ever see him as a Jew, a half breed.


But his hands show what he is, and it didn't look like a Jew to me.


But then I am not certain about all that, but after 30 years of Roman rule and Rome deciding who is who seems like it would come with the territory, putting evil men in high places.
Whether true or not, this is entirely beside the point. Which was that the Jewish priests had a contingent of well trained fighting men right at hand whose very job is was TO BE GUARDS. Claiming that the Jewish priests had no such men at their disposal displays an alarming lack of understanding of the facts for a self proclaimed preacher.
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:42 PM
 
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It is a MOVIE. Every historical movie takes some Liberty.
Christians: if it doesn't mesh with your literal understanding of the bible, it's a movie
Atheists/agnostics: if it helps you 'debunk' what over 2 billion view as an historical event, it's a movie
Historians: it's a movie
if one isn't interested in seeing it, then don't.
A voice of reason!!
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:39 PM
 
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Absolutely the Jews had their own men. They were known as the Jewish Temple Guard, technically neophyte priests, but in reality very highly trained fighting men whose job it was to protect the sanctity of the Jewish Temple. Protocol would have dictated that the Chief priests of the nation have a contingent of these men already right at hand as members of their personal bodyguard when on business to the Roman governor. It is to this group that Pilate is indicating when he points out to the priests that "You have a guard."

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...26&version=CEV

[i]Luke 22:
[52] Then Jesus said unto the chief priests, and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves?

John.18
[12] Then the band and the captain and officers of the Jews took Jesus, and bound him,

Acts.4
[1] And as they spake unto the people, the priests, and the captain of the temple, and the Sadducees, came upon them,

Acts.5
[24] Now when the high priest and the captain of the temple and the chief priests heard these things, they doubted of them whereunto this would grow.
[26] Then went the captain with the officers, and brought them without violence: for they feared the people, lest they should have been stoned.
Umm...no. Not really. Nice try, though.
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:57 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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Umm...no. Not really. Nice try, though.
"There are none so blind...."

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Old 03-04-2016, 05:13 PM
 
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Umm...no. Not really. Nice try, though.
How dare I point out to you that the Bible completely contradicts your declarations, when you know for a fact that the Bible can always be relied on to jump through the hoops of your expectations no matter what.
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Old 03-04-2016, 06:39 PM
 
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I'm still going to watch it... Even though smiley from training day plays the role of Jesus.
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Old 03-07-2016, 07:46 AM
 
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Saw the movie last night (not my original plan)... it seemed like a high end church production. You know how at Christmas and Easter, churches will do a drama to depict a story in the Bible. That's what it felt like to me. That's not to say it was a cheap production - but more so toward the storyline.

The details were relatively accurate. They added in a storyline to try and keep one's interest.

The most interesting thing for me was having the movie place you back in that time frame and experience the human reactions to Jesus defeating death and how people reacted to it.

If you are looking for the "WOW" factor, don't go. It's not a bad movie, but it's not a great movie either.

Mrs. DRob, who goes to the movies much more than myself, was not impressed - in that she had expectations, but the movie went in a different direction. Our church rented out that theater - so our pastor gave a little message afterwards that fit the moment and encouraged us to disperse and share the gospel.
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Old 03-07-2016, 04:29 PM
 
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Saw the movie last night (not my original plan)... it seemed like a high end church production. You know how at Christmas and Easter, churches will do a drama to depict a story in the Bible. That's what it felt like to me. That's not to say it was a cheap production - but more so toward the storyline.

The details were relatively accurate. They added in a storyline to try and keep one's interest.

The most interesting thing for me was having the movie place you back in that time frame and experience the human reactions to Jesus defeating death and how people reacted to it.

If you are looking for the "WOW" factor, don't go. It's not a bad movie, but it's not a great movie either.

Mrs. DRob, who goes to the movies much more than myself, was not impressed - in that she had expectations, but the movie went in a different direction. Our church rented out that theater - so our pastor gave a little message afterwards that fit the moment and encouraged us to disperse and share the gospel.
Thanks drob. Good, but more red box or Netflix--e . And spend the 7 in savings on Easter candy. Lol

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