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Old 02-09-2008, 05:02 PM
 
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What was Jesus saying to them in this verse?
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:01 PM
 
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There are several possibilities, He could have been talking about His transfiguration, resurrection and ascension, the coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. The transfiguration is a strong possibility because Mark immediately tells that story. What do you think noland?
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Old 02-11-2008, 06:08 PM
 
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Mark 9:1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
I think that refers to those "Left Behind" at the rapture.
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Old 02-11-2008, 06:27 PM
 
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Mark 9:1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
I think that refers to those "Left Behind" at the rapture.
One question: who are those taken, the righteous or the wicked?
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Old 02-11-2008, 06:38 PM
 
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Mark 9:1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
I think that refers to those "Left Behind" at the rapture.
Here is the Matthew version:

Mat 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

He was speaking to those who would keep His word and fulfill righteousness.

John the beloved was one such person, He lives as we speak and is not in line for death.
Translation/Transfiguration is the quickening, the quickened spirit that changes the carnal flesh to the divine.
When Jesus was transfigured He no longer was subject to death. He lays his life down, and he takes it up.
He said that the things He did we shall do and more, if we believe.

The Pharisees did not mis understand him when He said
Jhn 8:51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
Jhn 8:52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.

Why do we have such a difficult time believing that life EVER-lasting is exactly that. Did Jesus not die for us?

I know this is not a mainstream teaching, because everyone we know dies, yet Jesus taught it, and truly the few have the ears to hear.
As Revelation states: The last enemy to overcome is death....
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Old 02-11-2008, 07:28 PM
 
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That being the case, when Jesus was killed, did his soul go to Heaven for 3 days, then return? But, to answer Birdy_56's question, I think the righteous will be taken during the rapture, but they may be so few that nobody will notice.
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Old 02-11-2008, 07:42 PM
 
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That being the case, when Jesus was killed, did his soul go to Heaven for 3 days, then return? But, to answer Birdy_56's question, I think the righteous will be taken during the rapture, but they may be so few that nobody will notice.
His Spirit went to the prisoners that were held captive since the time of the flood. He released those that wished to be released from Satans grasp,and wherever else he needed to shine His light.

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Old 02-11-2008, 07:44 PM
 
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That being the case, when Jesus was killed, did his soul go to Heaven for 3 days, then return? But, to answer Birdy_56's question, I think the righteous will be taken during the rapture, but they may be so few that nobody will notice.
The elect are caught up when they are prepared to be. Jesus returns for those that are quickened when they are purified.
Jhn 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
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Old 02-11-2008, 07:45 PM
 
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But, to answer Birdy_56's question, I think the righteous will be taken during the rapture, but they may be so few that nobody will notice.
Nope: the wicked are taken!

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And as were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of man. For as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and they knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall be the coming of the Son of man. Then shall two man be in the field; one is taken, and one is left: two women shall be grinding at the mill; one is taken, and one is left. Watch therefore: for ye know not on what day your Lord cometh.

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Old 02-11-2008, 08:02 PM
 
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There are several possibilities, He could have been talking about His transfiguration, resurrection and ascension, the coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. The transfiguration is a strong possibility because Mark immediately tells that story.
True. Most are unsure what it really means I seriously doubt He's speaking about the rapture or catching away. Moreover, who is He speaking to? Mark 8:34

"And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me."

Mark 9:1 is a continuation of that discourse not a new thought. This is one of the problems with chapter and verse separations it tends to make you break a though or not when it has no reason to. A couple of words to key on, "some" and "kingdom of God with power." We know from the full counsel of God that the kingdom of God is salvation this is clear. Notice "some" Jesus is not saying everyone only some, and that of those that were standing there listening to Him in Ch. 8:34. Some believe it was seeing the transfiguration, or that there are/were some standing there that would see salvation, and most likely the the coming of the Holy Spirit too, before they were to die. What's wrong with that? Jesus said something similar to Peter and John in John 21:18-23
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