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Where in the Scriptures [not the NT] does it imply this?...
Ecc 7:20 "Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins." It is also quoted in the other half of Scripture that you don't recognize, the New Testament -- in Romans 3.
Ecc 7:20 "Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins." It is also quoted in the other half of Scripture that you don't recognize, the New Testament -- in Romans 3.
20.For there is no righteous man on earth who does good and sins not.
Rashi's Commentary:
For there is no righteous man on earth: Therefore, he must examine his deeds.
Basically what this is saying is that even the Righteous man sins at times so even the Righteous man must examine his deeds...
I lost you because you didn't see the connection between what Satan did to Eve, and then the generation next revealed it, ie. MURDER. Everything begins with a seed. Satan was a murderer from the beginning.
Then I guess you were a murderer, too. I'm glad I'm not!
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Yes I do believe all mankind bears the principality that is sin, from the moment they come into this world. It's passed down through the blood, the life is in the blood.
I'm sorry, but sin is not genetically transmitted, no matter how vehemently you want to insist that it is. Sin is something you do, something you are predisposed from birth to do once you're in a position to be able to distinguish between right and wrong. But you are no more a "sinner" at birth than you are a "skier" at birth or a "swimmer" at birth. You are a skier when you begin to ski. You are a swimmer when you begin to swim. And you are a sinner when you begin to sin. Everyone is not predisposed to become a skier or a swimmer, but we are all predisposed to become sinners.
Not only that being about Babies, these scriptures also speak in reference too, that every person born are without the excuse that they never knew nor heard about God.
"Knew" and "heard about" are to different things, though. A person can have an inborn sense of the existence of a Higher Power, but if he is never told about God or that God's son was sent to earth to atone for his sins, he's not going to automatically just "know" these things. If he did, there would have been no reason for Jesus to commission His Apostles to spread His gospel throughout the world.
Then I guess you were a murderer, too. I'm glad I'm not!
You've never hated anyone? Jesus said you'd be a murderer in your heart, if that's the case.
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I'm sorry, but sin is not genetically transmitted, no matter how vehemently you want to insist that it is. Sin is something you do, something you are predisposed from birth to do once you're in a position to be able to distinguish between right and wrong. But you are no more a "sinner" at birth than you are a "skier" at birth or a "swimmer" at birth. You are a skier when you begin to ski. You are a swimmer when you begin to swim. And you are a sinner when you begin to sin. Everyone is not predisposed to become a skier or a swimmer, but we are all predisposed to become sinners.
Yet, the apostle Paul went into that in detail in Romans 5. It's why Adam and Eve eventually died. It's why all human beings die--the effects of sin, that is.
The very first lie ever told was "Surely, you won't die".
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"Knew" and "heard about" are to different things, though. A person can have an inborn sense of the existence of a Higher Power, but if he is never told about God or that God's son was sent to earth to atone for his sins, he's not going to automatically just "know" these things. If he did, there would have been no reason for Jesus to commission His Apostles to spread His gospel throughout the world.
With all this theology you're talking about...do you have any scripture to back it up? Or is it just the Gospel according to Katzpur?
Yet, the apostle Paul went into that in detail in Romans 5. It's why Adam and Eve eventually died. It's why all human beings die--the effects of sin, that is.
The very first lie ever told was "Surely, you won't die".
Thank goodness for sin, then. We'd have a serious overpopulation problem without it.
You've never hated anyone? Jesus said you'd be a murderer in your heart, if that's the case.
Hated? No, I don't think I have. I've disliked a few people, but certainly not enough to wish they would die. "As [a man] thinketh in his heart, so is he." I am not a murderer in my heart.
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Yet, the apostle Paul went into that in detail in Romans 5. It's why Adam and Eve eventually died. It's why all human beings die--the effects of sin, that is.
Silly me. I thought it's because we're mortal and mortals are subject to death at some point.
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The very first lie ever told was "Surely, you won't die".
That's right. I agree.
[quote]With all this theology you're talking about...do you have any scripture to back it up? Or is it
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just the Gospel according to Katzpur?
Actually, it's common sense and logic speaking -- two things my Father in Heaven gave me and expected me to use. Two questions for you, Viz (numbered and put in boldface type so that you don't inadvertently overlook them):
1. Do you honestly believe that a six-year old kid being raised today in North Korea understands the gospel of Jesus Christ and knows who Jesus is?
2. If a knowledge of Jesus Christ is in every person, why in the world did Jesus command His Apostles to spread the word?
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