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Old 03-10-2016, 12:53 AM
 
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The "little ones" are already in the "saved state".We must be re-born again to be seen as innocent "little one's"
Of course not literally since we cannot climb back into our Mothers womb to be pushed out again and re-born.

Matthew 18:2 He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. 3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.


John 3:4 "What do you mean?" exclaimed Nicodemus. "How can an old man go back into his mother's womb and be born again?"


We cannot climb back in to the womb to be pushed out "a little one" again as I said. So Nicodemus had a valid question he asked Jesus.

To be re-born again into a little one, into the state we must be to be saved, we must be re-born again through a re-birth in Jesus Christ. We died along with him and rose with him. Our sins were put to death with him. And our life rose with him.

God asks us to accept his son as our Lord and Savior,. And that he shed his blood (died) to cover our sins. So we can be seen as " a little one"

Humble and meek like little ones.
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Old 03-10-2016, 08:14 AM
 
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The "little ones" are already in the "saved state".We must be re-born again to be seen as innocent "little one's"
Of course not literally since we cannot climb back into our Mothers womb to be pushed out again and re-born.

Matthew 18:2 He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. 3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.


John 3:4 "What do you mean?" exclaimed Nicodemus. "How can an old man go back into his mother's womb and be born again?"


We cannot climb back in to the womb to be pushed out "a little one" again as I said. So Nicodemus had a valid question he asked Jesus.

To be re-born again into a little one, into the state we must be to be saved, we must be re-born again through a re-birth in Jesus Christ. We died along with him and rose with him. Our sins were put to death with him. And our life rose with him.

God asks us to accept his son as our Lord and Savior,. And that he shed his blood (died) to cover our sins. So we can be seen as " a little one"

Humble and meek like little ones.
Right on!
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Old 03-10-2016, 05:20 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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The "little ones" are already in the "saved state".We must be re-born again to be seen as innocent "little one's"
Of course not literally since we cannot climb back into our Mothers womb to be pushed out again and re-born.

Matthew 18:2 He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. 3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.


John 3:4 "What do you mean?" exclaimed Nicodemus. "How can an old man go back into his mother's womb and be born again?"


We cannot climb back in to the womb to be pushed out "a little one" again as I said. So Nicodemus had a valid question he asked Jesus.

To be re-born again into a little one, into the state we must be to be saved, we must be re-born again through a re-birth in Jesus Christ. We died along with him and rose with him. Our sins were put to death with him. And our life rose with him.

God asks us to accept his son as our Lord and Savior,. And that he shed his blood (died) to cover our sins. So we can be seen as " a little one"

Humble and meek like little ones.
The Bible was clearly revealed that "little ones" are not conceived \ born "saved little ones".
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Old 03-10-2016, 09:05 PM
 
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Right on!
Thank you
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Old 03-13-2016, 03:05 PM
 
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Several times, the so-called Age of Accountability has been mentioned. Is that just an idle conjecture or can anyone cite a specific passage?
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Old 03-13-2016, 04:37 PM
 
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Several times, the so-called Age of Accountability has been mentioned. Is that just an idle conjecture or can anyone cite a specific passage?
I wouldn't call it "an idle conjecture," but there is no specific passage in the Bible that mentions the "age of accountability." There are, however, some pretty clear statements about how Jesus regarded children. He said that Heaven was of their kind. So at some point, we lose that innocence He valued so much.
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Old 03-24-2016, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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Have you ever heard of a figure of speech? In 1000 years I imagine someone will look back and believe we thought poodles and tabbies fell out of the sky, too...because I know I've said that it was "raining cats and dogs".
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In that case, the entire bible is a figure of speech. Or can you pick and choose which verses are? How would one know?
Exactly.

You tell me Vizio: which verses should be taken literally and which verses should be taken as a figure of speech? Do you have an objective standard by which you make that determination?

I await your response.
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Old 03-24-2016, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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It's already unanimously agreed that newborn babies who die at birth go to Heaven. But since they are not Christians at all, they are still UNsaved. So doesn't that mean that the UNsaved go to Heaven? Granted, the point has been made that the babies go to Heaven because they are innocent. But that point is totally wrong because Romans 3:23 states unequivocally that "ALL have sin." ALL obviously includes those babies.
Heaven isn't a box where all saved people go, it is in 3 sections and the outer court of darkness is where people go to weep and gnash they teeth.


Many will come into the kingdom only to be escorted out of the higher zoe kingdom but they are still saved. You can speak against Jesus himself, teach people not to keep the law and STILL be saved, albeit, you will be the least in the kingdom.


Salvation is broad, I think most people are saved whether they be Muslim, Hindu or others. Hindus and Muslims don't do anything worse than what Christians do, and all 3 will celebrate the same feasts.


Christians say they believe in Jesus but everything they worship usually comes from Paganism, and if the Hindu and Muslim isn't saved, it's not likely the Pagan Christian will be either.


But I believe they will, I believe salvation is very broad, but salvation alone will leave a person weeping and gnashing their teeth.
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Old 03-27-2016, 01:05 PM
 
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I wouldn't call it "an idle conjecture," but there is no specific passage in the Bible that mentions the "age of accountability." There are, however, some pretty clear statements about how Jesus regarded children. He said that Heaven was of their kind. So at some point, we lose that innocence He valued so much.
At some point, you said. What specific age is that?
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Old 03-27-2016, 04:55 PM
 
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At some point, you said. What specific age is that?
I don't know what specific age it would be, as it probably varies from person to person. Different churches that believe in this concept specify different ages. My Church says it's eight years of age. That's probably accurate in the vast majority of cases. And by that, I mean that by eight years of age, a child can comprehend more than just, "Don't do that or you'll get punished." He is able to discern between right and wrong. I really feel fortunate not to have been raised with the idea pounded into my head that I started out my life deserving of hellfire and damnation. What a horrible thing for a child to have to bear!
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