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Old 03-09-2016, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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In that case, you'd best die with an asbestos suit on.
Hell sounds like a great place... no fundamentalist blowhards!
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Old 03-09-2016, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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Truth and warning, not hate. The sinner HATES to be told he is a sinner. Your post seems to prove that point.

The true issue here is self-justification not hate. Every other form of sin leaves a stain of self-awareness that what has been done is sinful. Nearly every other type of sin leaves a person with the awareness that he or she has done wrong in the eyes of God.

The murderer knows he has sinned. The thief and the prostitute know they are sinners. The liar knows he is a sinner (unless he is a politician). The adulterer knows he or she is a sinner. And so the sad story of humanity's fall from grace continues - except for the gay. He alone justifies his sin before man and God. There is no one so righteous in the eyes of the gay person than he is himself. In his opinion, heaven and earth should bow to his sinful choices and designs.

If there is hate here, it is that which is expressed against the Word of God.

Live your life as you see fit. None who follow Christ will stop you (this isn't true for Islam of course, but that's a subject for another post). In the end, however, the gay will not be able to stand before the judgment seat of Adonai, the God of the Universe and say there was no warning.

and that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
Blah, blah, blah. Threats of hell don't work on me. I'm doing just fine! I'm enjoying my same sex marriage, our children. But then I didn't fall for an extremist religious brainwashing
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Old 03-09-2016, 03:08 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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A bit long winded and somewhat off topic, Bob.

I jumped into this thread because I assumed it was a political statement. Instead I read a bit of whitewash. Do you make a stand for right living according to the law of God or do you not? After all your mumbling about grace and the need for God you end by nearly apologizing for the gay life style, which is according to your definition no worse than any other sin.

Should I point out Bob that ANY sin is worthy of death? Should I point out once again God's grievous reaction to this particular sin in terms of nuking the towns of the valley of Sodom - all five of them? Are we winking at sin? Are we making room in the dark closets of mankind's wickedness for sodomy by saying, "oh gee, it's not all that bad."

It IS all that bad, Bob.

The gay crowd has designs on our religion, our children, our homes and our very minds. Make no mistake that in the name of equality their purpose is to subvert the family structure and thereby the nation. They have been so successful that if you even raise objection to it from the pulpit you risk condemnation from politically correct members of the congregation. If you raise objection to it in the work place you risk termination of your job. Warning such a person that their foolish ways may affect their eternal destiny is now considered hate language - by those who need to be saved the most.

This is NOT equality. It is tyranny of the meanest sort.

They are sinners like all the rest? Do you not know that sinners are condemned to hell by their own wickedness? Hell is not an allegory for bad attitudes. It is not a place for some abstract idea. Hell is for PEOPLE, Bob. Eternal damnation is for the sinner, of which the gay is chief because he or she demands fair treatment. God is not fair. Never has been. Never will be. God is just and as such will NEVER permit spiritually unregenerate members of the gay crowd into paradise. They have rejected the just law of Adonai and are deserving of the consequences.

IF GOD DOES NOT JUDGE AMERICA, HE WILL HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO SODOM AND GOMORRAH.
- Shanghai curse August 1937

Nearly every other sinner realizes that he or she is doing wrong. They may ignore the voice of conscience and continue in it, but they do know they are wrong. The thief knows it. The adulterer knows it. The murderer knows it. The liar knows it. The addict knows it. They all know it except the gay person. The gay fool is worst of all, because he or she justifies themselves in their warped notion of love and fairness.

A dilute gospel won't save anybody, Bob. If you care at all for the lost you must review your attitude.

and that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
so let God do the punishing. Religion is another special interest, just like the gay agenda. count the votes and apply the peoples will.
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Old 03-09-2016, 03:34 PM
 
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Yet people like you just cannot leave us alone!
Lol....they sure aren't going to look in the mirror and pay attention to their own lives. That would leave less time for lecturing Gay America.
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Old 03-09-2016, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Emmaus, PA
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Hell sounds like a great place... no fundamentalist blowhards!
Supposedly, Hell is a place of great pain and suffering. EVERYONE that you meet will be a fundamentalist blowhard.
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Old 03-09-2016, 04:49 PM
 
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Christians will often judge gay people not knowing the difference in the 3 sections of heaven and what it takes to be counted in the temple proper, and while they may say a gay person is going here, or going there, chances are, they are going to the same place.
IMO, there is no "chance" to it. The same measure of judgment you mete out, the same is meted out unto you. And G-d, threw a monkey wrench into it, making the snake that bites them invisible though eyes of flesh, that none would escape the law of sowing and reaping, without seeking Him and HIS wisdom.

The principle is that the body (outer court) can only do what it sees it's head (inner court of the priesthood) doing. This is why we are told that if we hate in our heart, we have murdered, yet many would call the Lord a liar, saying they have never murdered, yet they have hated. That's because they don't realize the priesthood is the head, and it's THEIR HEART that the hate is in, yet the outer court BODY does the murdering, because of it.

This is why He came down so hard on the temple rulers of their day, berating them for not cleaning the INSIDE OF THE CUP.....TOO. Yet it He alluded it was ALL ONE CUP, and it is, the head (spiritual priesthood) and the body (outer court) were made one.

So all those men baptized into His Spirit, exalting themselves standing on pulpits against the pattern/putting another man in the bed for the sheep to come to get to Christ and then condemning the body for doing outwardly, what's IN THEIR (the priesthood's) OWN HEARTS....woe unto the shepherds. Peace

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Old 03-09-2016, 04:52 PM
 
Location: GOVERNMENT of TRAITORS & NAZIS
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IMO, there is no "chance" to it. The same measure of judgment you mete out, the same is meted out unto you. And G-d, threw a monkey wrench into it, making the snake that bites them invisible, that none would escape.

The principle is that the body (outer court) can only do what it sees it's head (inner court of the priesthood) doing. This is why we are told that if we hate in our heart, we have murdered, yet many would call the Lord a liar, saying they have never murdered, yet they have hated. That's because they don't realize the priesthood is the head, and it's THEIR HEART that the hate is in, yet the outer court BODY does the murdering, because of it.

This is why He came down so hard on the temple rulers of their day, berating them for not cleaning the INSIDE OF THE CUP.....TOO. Yet it He alluded it was ALL ONE CUP, and it is, the head (spiritual priesthood) and the body (outer court) were made one.

So all those men baptized into His Spirit, exalting themselves standing on pulpits against the pattern/putting another man in the bed for the sheep to come to get to Christ. amd then condemning the body for what's IN THEIR OWN HEARTS....woe unto the shepherds. Peace
That is why Jesus gets the last word and us mortals have NO SAY..otherwise heaven is going to be REALLY empty.
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Old 03-10-2016, 09:39 AM
 
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He's always had the last word.....sometimes it just falls on deaf ears...... Peace
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Old 03-10-2016, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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Supposedly, Hell is a place of great pain and suffering. EVERYONE that you meet will be a fundamentalist blowhard.
lol! It's just an eternal fire and brimstone revival
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Old 03-10-2016, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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lol! It's just an eternal fire and brimstone revival
People have strange ideals about a hell. It's like people saying that you will rot, and be alive and the worms eating you will never die, and they will always eat you.


But this concept looks nothing like that. A person who has been through the barley and been divided in the wheat is given a very small seed in Tabernacles and he pray for the rain of Tabernacles to fall on that spiritual seed in order for the seed to die so that it bears fruit, but if the rain does not fall on his seed, his seed will sit there alive waiting for a rain that is never coming and so the worm of that seed will never die and it cannot bear fruit of the spirit unless the rain falls on it and kills it, and so it is said,'' Their worm will never die.''
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