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Old 03-08-2016, 05:07 PM
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I’m honestly getting to a point where I feel like “just let them have it”.
The people that want to insist that beeing a christian is just trying to **** of everyone by forcing your beliefs down their throat? Fine, take the term “christian”, I don’t want anything to do with you anymore anyway. Lets see if God will bless it if you continue to complain about how the other kids aren’t playing by your rules.

The people that want to go on and on about a "War on Christmas" A phrase that doesn't mean anything anyway. Fine, have your war . It’s just a stupid commercialism fest anyway, see if God really cares if I say “Happy Holidays”, like it matters. God cares much more about goodwill toward all, than about whether we say "Merry Christmas", "Happy Holidays" or something else entirely.

The people with their endless culture war persecution complex. You can have it. It's lost, you...all of you are lost, but you can have it. Keep your noses out of other people's relationships and medical decisions. Try minding your own business for once. Every time you pick at someone else's splinter, that log in your eye just keeps getting wedged in deeper and deeper. All of your endless yammering about other people's "sins", and shortcomings, and you consistently refuse to acknowledge or even try to fix your own lives. You can have the "christian" label, I don't want it anymore.

I would also love to see the term christian closer related to weird cults that try to control people with an iron grip. We’re already halfway there, the reputation is already set. Lets just finish it off and ruin the name so we can start over…this time without labels, names, positions, ranks, ministries, speakers, networking, missions, programs, the frauds, the quacks, the “miracles” the “music”…all of that, that whole overgrown disgusting Six Flags over Jesus subculture of sub-par commercialism dressed as a remnant of faith in Christ. Let it die, please God let it die.
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Old 03-08-2016, 05:17 PM
 
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It must have felt good to get that off your chest! And I think I understand what you are saying.


It's hard to be a spiritual being in a human world.
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Old 03-08-2016, 05:19 PM
 
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I’m honestly getting to a point where I feel like “just let them have it”.
The people that want to insist that beeing a christian is just trying to **** of everyone by forcing your beliefs down their throat? Fine, take the term “christian”, I don’t want anything to do with you anymore anyway. Lets see if God will bless it if you continue to complain about how the other kids aren’t playing by your rules.

The people that want to go on and on about a "War on Christmas" A phrase that doesn't mean anything anyway. Fine, have your war . It’s just a stupid commercialism fest anyway, see if God really cares if I say “Happy Holidays”, like it matters. God cares much more about goodwill toward all, than about whether we say "Merry Christmas", "Happy Holidays" or something else entirely.

The people with their endless culture war persecution complex. You can have it. It's lost, you...all of you are lost, but you can have it. Keep your noses out of other people's relationships and medical decisions. Try minding your own business for once. Every time you pick at someone else's splinter, that log in your eye just keeps getting wedged in deeper and deeper. All of your endless yammering about other people's "sins", and shortcomings, and you consistently refuse to acknowledge or even try to fix your own lives. You can have the "christian" label, I don't want it anymore.

I would also love to see the term christian closer related to weird cults that try to control people with an iron grip. We’re already halfway there, the reputation is already set. Lets just finish it off and ruin the name so we can start over…this time without labels, names, positions, ranks, ministries, speakers, networking, missions, programs, the frauds, the quacks, the “miracles” the “music”…all of that, that whole overgrown disgusting Six Flags over Jesus subculture of sub-par commercialism dressed as a remnant of faith in Christ. Let it die, please God let it die.
Most of us have started distinguishing ourselves as believers by calling ourselves "Christ followers."

"Christians" include even Donald Trump (according to Trump).
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Potential GOP presidential contender Donald Trump opened about his faith during an interview with a Christian network, saying he is a Christian and that he's a "Sunday church person."
Read more at Donald Trump on Faith: I am Christian, Sunday Church Person
And that was a 2011 interview.

The fundamentalists can have him as a Christian. They don't see themselves treating people like he does--but that's because they haven't learned to be introspective.
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Old 03-08-2016, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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I’m honestly getting to a point where I feel like “just let them have it”.
The people that want to insist that beeing a christian is just trying to **** of everyone by forcing your beliefs down their throat? Fine, take the term “christian”, I don’t want anything to do with you anymore anyway. Lets see if God will bless it if you continue to complain about how the other kids aren’t playing by your rules.

The people that want to go on and on about a "War on Christmas" A phrase that doesn't mean anything anyway. Fine, have your war . It’s just a stupid commercialism fest anyway, see if God really cares if I say “Happy Holidays”, like it matters. God cares much more about goodwill toward all, than about whether we say "Merry Christmas", "Happy Holidays" or something else entirely.

The people with their endless culture war persecution complex. You can have it. It's lost, you...all of you are lost, but you can have it. Keep your noses out of other people's relationships and medical decisions. Try minding your own business for once. Every time you pick at someone else's splinter, that log in your eye just keeps getting wedged in deeper and deeper. All of your endless yammering about other people's "sins", and shortcomings, and you consistently refuse to acknowledge or even try to fix your own lives. You can have the "christian" label, I don't want it anymore.

I would also love to see the term christian closer related to weird cults that try to control people with an iron grip. We’re already halfway there, the reputation is already set. Lets just finish it off and ruin the name so we can start over…this time without labels, names, positions, ranks, ministries, speakers, networking, missions, programs, the frauds, the quacks, the “miracles” the “music”…all of that, that whole overgrown disgusting Six Flags over Jesus subculture of sub-par commercialism dressed as a remnant of faith in Christ. Let it die, please God let it die.


Dang the bad luck, I guess she told me!
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Old 03-08-2016, 08:04 PM
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It must have felt good to get that off your chest! And I think I understand what you are saying.


It's hard to be a spiritual being in a human world.
Yes, it did. It's hard to put into words what I've been feeling for the past few years. My 'throwing in the towel' thing was as close as I could get. It's very hard to be a spiritual being in a human word. I agree.
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Old 03-08-2016, 08:09 PM
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Most of us have started distinguishing ourselves as believers by calling ourselves "Christ followers."

"Christians" include even Donald Trump (according to Trump).
Read more at Donald Trump on Faith: I am Christian, Sunday Church Person
And that was a 2011 interview.

The fundamentalists can have him as a Christian. They don't see themselves treating people like he does--but that's because they haven't learned to be introspective.

I think...well, it's a combination of Ted Cruz and Donald Trump, and so many other things. I've been pushed out of organized Christianity. Not just by them, but by things I feel God has been showing me for the last few years. All of this has been building inside me. Mainstream Western Christianity looks nothing like Christ. Not that I can see. I like 'Christ follower'; I think I'll go with that.
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Old 03-08-2016, 08:19 PM
 
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I think...well, it's a combination of Ted Cruz and Donald Trump, and so many other things. I've been pushed out of organized Christianity. Not just by them, but by things I feel God has been showing me for the last few years. All of this has been building inside me. Mainstream Western Christianity looks nothing like Christ. Not that I can see. I like 'Christ follower'; I think I'll go with that.
Wherefore doesn't it look like Christ?


What has God been showing you?
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Old 03-08-2016, 08:47 PM
 
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I’m honestly getting to a point where I feel like “just let them have it”.
The people that want to insist that beeing a christian is just trying to **** of everyone by forcing your beliefs down their throat? Fine, take the term “christian”, I don’t want anything to do with you anymore anyway. Lets see if God will bless it if you continue to complain about how the other kids aren’t playing by your rules.

The people that want to go on and on about a "War on Christmas" A phrase that doesn't mean anything anyway. Fine, have your war . It’s just a stupid commercialism fest anyway, see if God really cares if I say “Happy Holidays”, like it matters. God cares much more about goodwill toward all, than about whether we say "Merry Christmas", "Happy Holidays" or something else entirely.

The people with their endless culture war persecution complex. You can have it. It's lost, you...all of you are lost, but you can have it. Keep your noses out of other people's relationships and medical decisions. Try minding your own business for once. Every time you pick at someone else's splinter, that log in your eye just keeps getting wedged in deeper and deeper. All of your endless yammering about other people's "sins", and shortcomings, and you consistently refuse to acknowledge or even try to fix your own lives. You can have the "christian" label, I don't want it anymore.

I would also love to see the term christian closer related to weird cults that try to control people with an iron grip. We’re already halfway there, the reputation is already set. Lets just finish it off and ruin the name so we can start over…this time without labels, names, positions, ranks, ministries, speakers, networking, missions, programs, the frauds, the quacks, the “miracles” the “music”…all of that, that whole overgrown disgusting Six Flags over Jesus subculture of sub-par commercialism dressed as a remnant of faith in Christ. Let it die, please God let it die.
Why sugar-coat and beat around the bush how you feel? Just tell it like it is, dang it!
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Old 03-08-2016, 09:04 PM
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Wherefore doesn't it look like Christ?


What has God been showing you?

There is a lot of wall building. So much separation. Especially as it relates to the LGBT community. Whih is where I speak from. A whole lot of judging, a whole lot of "love the sinner, hate the sin" which Christ never taught. Christ taught "Love the sinner. Hate your own sin." There is a whole lot of hurtful, and damaging condemnation. A whole lot of ignoring the other, the "least of these." A lot can be seen in the way many christians treat the LGBT community, and the atheist community, and the muslim community, undocumented immigrants, the poor, etc. I could go on for pages, but the mods would rise up as one and slay me, so I won't. Christ spent time with those the Pharisees would have nothing to do with. I see the modern church acting just like the Pharisees.
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Old 03-08-2016, 09:21 PM
 
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There is a lot of wall building. So much separation. Especially as it relates to the LGBT community. Whih is where I speak from. A whole lot of judging, a whole lot of "love the sinner, hate the sin" which Christ never taught. Christ taught "Love the sinner. Hate your own sin." There is a whole lot of hurtful, and damaging condemnation. A whole lot of ignoring the other, the "least of these." A lot can be seen in the way many christians treat the LGBT community, and the atheist community, and the muslim community, undocumented immigrants, the poor, etc. I could go on for pages, but the mods would rise up as one and slay me, so I won't. Christ spent time with those the Pharisees would have nothing to do with. I see the modern church acting just like the Pharisees.
I don't hate Lesbians but I do love the law. I find that I am always breaking laws of immoral sex although I haven't even touched another person in 15 years. But if I should look at porn, I find myself disgusting and even though I haven't touched anyone, I am still in sin from the lust. I know this and I acknowledge my sin, and it wouldn't matter if I never touch another person, I still commit immoral acts. If I should go out and have fornication with a man, I would have become a fornicator and I break the laws in committing homosexuality.


I am not a homosexual but I count myself just as guilty as if I were, just from my own imagination and not having touched flesh at all.


I do things that I wished I didn't do, and I always find myself in sin no matter how hard I try, but I KNOW I am in sin, I don't rationalize it, and I am utterly and completely guilty as anyone who commits sexually immoral acts.


Now a lot of Christians would judge you but they wont judge themselves, and no matter how good they think they are, everyone is dealing with some kind of sin.


I don't think myself better than anyone at not sinning, but there is a line.




Sin is sin, and I can't rationalize it for myself although I sure wished I could, and I don't see myself better than anyone else who commits sexually immoral acts of sin.


But I do call it what it is, and this isn't to offend anyone, it is simply because I believe God, even though I am so found wanting, and I know I don't add up, I still have to believe what he says is sin.


Does that make me a bad person?
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