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Old 03-09-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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China’s Efforts to Mold Christianity in Its Own Image Face Resistance

In August 2014, a top-ranking official in the Chinese government informed the world that China was planning on nationalizing Christianity.

Wang Zuoan, director of the State Administration for Religious Affairs, told a forum in Shanghai that the “construction of Chinese Christian theology should adapt to China’s condition and integrate with Chinese culture.”

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A pastor from Zhejiang province in eastern China said the intent of sinicizing Christianity is “to reform and remold Christianity into a (Communist) Party-dominated tool that can be used in its service.”

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A 2010 Pew research report claimed there were 68 million Christians in China. That number is expected to grow to 70 million by 2050, a modest increase. Other estimates suggest somewhere between 100 and 130 million by 2050.

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The Chinese authorities “are afraid of losing control,” Yang said. “Many Christians do show a level of independence from government interference. This worries officials. They want to find some way to maintain control, and sinicization is the latest effort to tame Christianity through a more systematic campaign.”


The Chinese Communists can not control who and where the Holy Spirit does His ministry.

Acts 1:8 - but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth."
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Old 03-09-2016, 08:07 AM
 
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The Chinese government will find a way to use organized religion to its own ends. Politicians always do.
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Old 03-09-2016, 08:37 AM
 
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All they gotta do is tax them, then they'll feel better about the whole thing.
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Old 03-09-2016, 08:45 AM
 
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The Chinese government will find a way to use organized religion to its own ends. Politicians always do.
Karl Marx was a wise and insightful human..What are the odds that the Chinese will use his book as a reference for what to do to control the masses?
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Old 03-09-2016, 09:52 AM
 
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Hey, if Constantine can do it why can't they?
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Old 03-09-2016, 09:55 AM
 
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China’s Efforts to Mold Christianity in Its Own Image Face Resistance

In August 2014, a top-ranking official in the Chinese government informed the world that China was planning on nationalizing Christianity.

Wang Zuoan, director of the State Administration for Religious Affairs, told a forum in Shanghai that the “construction of Chinese Christian theology should adapt to China’s condition and integrate with Chinese culture.”

...
A pastor from Zhejiang province in eastern China said the intent of sinicizing Christianity is “to reform and remold Christianity into a (Communist) Party-dominated tool that can be used in its service.”

...
A 2010 Pew research report claimed there were 68 million Christians in China. That number is expected to grow to 70 million by 2050, a modest increase. Other estimates suggest somewhere between 100 and 130 million by 2050.

...
The Chinese authorities “are afraid of losing control,” Yang said. “Many Christians do show a level of independence from government interference. This worries officials. They want to find some way to maintain control, and sinicization is the latest effort to tame Christianity through a more systematic campaign.”


The Chinese Communists can not control who and where the Holy Spirit does His ministry.

Acts 1:8 - but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth."
Yet another biased webpage...


Christianity in China has a history going back to the 7th century during the Tang dynasty. Today, it comprises Catholics, Protestants, and a small number of Orthodox Christians. Although its lineage in China is not as ancient as the institutional religions of Taoism, Mahayana Buddhism and Confucianism, Christianity has existed in China since at least the seventh century and has gained influence over the past 200 years.

In recent years, the number of Chinese Christians has increased significantly, particularly since the easing of restrictions on religious activity during economic reforms in the late 1970s; Christians were 4 million before 1949 (3 million Catholics and 1 million Protestants). Today, accurate data on Chinese Christians is hard to come by. According to official figures, Christians are 26 million, whereas according to the estimates by some scholars and some Christian groups, there are up to 100 million Christians in China.[dubious – discuss] Government figures tend to exclude unrecognized underground “house” churches, non-registered believers and children. On the other hand, some Christian organizations tend to inflate those numbers.

In many parts of China, the practice of religion continues to be tightly controlled by government authorities. Chinese over the age of 18 are only permitted to join officially sanctioned Christian groups registered with the government-approved Protestant Three-Self Church and China Christian Council, and Chinese Patriotic Catholic Church.On the other hand, many Christians practice in informal networks referred to as "house churches", the proliferation of which began in the 1950s when many Chinese Catholics and Protestants began to reject state-controlled structures purported to represent them. Members of such groups are said to represent the "silent majority" of Chinese Christians and represent many diverse theological traditions. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_China

Looks like it is not recent...

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Old 03-09-2016, 09:55 AM
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Hey, if Constantine can do it why can't they?
Exactly.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:00 AM
 
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Hey, if Constantine can do it why can't they?
Yes exactly.
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Old 03-09-2016, 11:51 AM
 
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it's never about mass control. It's more about education. No offense and not trying to be racism. The problem of China is that childhood education has been messed up (for a long time in history, without being noticed though). People are too selfish to build a more healthy society. Chinese can never have a fair and healthy society in the past 1000 years. Repeatedly they put the blame on the system and the rulers/kings, and see overthrowing the existing government as the ultimate solution. With the millions human lives died in the past several revolutions in the attempt of overthrowing systems, it doesn't seem that a bad society is a result of a bad system or a bad government. This may all be rooted to a culturally improper childhood education.

Buddhism is a failure in this case as it has been adapted by Chinese as a dominant religion in the past 1000 years yet it has no effect in improving the situation. Seeing the cultural difference of childhood education between China and the western side of the world, it could possibly be a good move to nationalize Christianity.


Spiritually speaking, without the true God humans are pretty much dead.
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Old 03-09-2016, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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it's never about mass control. It's more about education. No offense and not trying to be racism. The problem of China is that childhood education has been messed up (for a long time in history, without being noticed though). People are too selfish to build a more healthy society. Chinese can never have a fair and healthy society in the past 1000 years. Repeatedly they put the blame on the system and the rulers/kings, and see overthrowing the existing government as the ultimate solution. With the millions human lives died in the past several revolutions in the attempt of overthrowing systems, it doesn't seem that a bad society is a result of a bad system or a bad government. This may all be rooted to a culturally improper childhood education.

Buddhism is a failure in this case as it has been adapted by Chinese as a dominant religion in the past 1000 years yet it has no effect in improving the situation. Seeing the cultural difference of childhood education between China and the western side of the world, it could possibly be a good move to nationalize Christianity.


Spiritually speaking, without the true God humans are pretty much dead.

Thanks for the response.


I have been reading that China has been destroying churches and building with crosses on them in the past 2 or 3 years. Not saying education is a factor, but the government is obviously poking around Christianity for a reason.
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