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Old 03-17-2016, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Age-enduring View Post
I kind of get where you're coming from with this.

It's not going to be too much of a stretch to say that Agape love can sometimes equal tough love - God does after all tell us to love our enemies. Does He even have any real enemies? And so we potentially see that love is even riven through the word, with respect to how His adversary should be handled. But we need to see how it is batted back from whom it was intended to be addressed to....
Right. Even 'tough love' is really discipline. The Bible notes that God loves those He disciplines. All doctrines come from somewhere and someone. I would like to know the origin of 'if the Bible doesn't match up with agape love then toss it out'. It's not Biblical but it came from somewhere. Just like other doctrines such as the trinity, hellfire, rapture, etc etc. One can do some research and find the origin of all of these doctrines.

Jesus for example showed in that a person can defend themselves just the quoting the Bible. Jesus didn't interpret it for Satan or go into a long speech about why he was stating law from the Bible of the time. Satan didn't argue Jesus' points either or try to debate the meaning of scripture with Jesus. It seems Jesus had made his mind up that the law says what it says. His points to Satan were, there is to be no testing of God, Jesus refused rely on his own power to feed himself but relied on God and all worship goes to Jesus' Father in the Heavens. Jesus showed how to correctly use the Bible to make a stand against Satan himself. If it's good enough for Jesus, can't it be good enough for us?

We have record of that conversation from one of Jesus trusted disciples. We don't have the original manuscript but we have a very old and accurate copy of the original manuscript. We know the date was 30 C.E. when the conversation happened. See, it can be tracked back to a source. The 'compare the Bible to agape love' can't be tracked. There is no source and there is nothing to support it in the Bible. Thus is why I am skeptical of it and therefore choose to reject it.

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