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Old 03-18-2016, 02:40 PM
 
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What in Matthew 5:17-20 NOT SAYING THAT ?


What in Matthew 7:21-24 NOT SAYING THAT ?


What in 2 Timothy 3:16 NOT SAYING THAT ?


Who can be a coward with Romans 10:9 to justify mocking Romans 6:1 ?


Who can be self righteous with Ephesians 2:8 to justify mocking John 8:31 ?


God inspired his apostle to put 2 Timothy 2:15 in the bible because of rookie mistakes like this.


God inspired his apostle to put 2 Cor. 4:3 in the bible because of rookies that will stay rookies on issues like this.


God inspired his apostle to put John 8:44 in the bible so you know who this rookie actually IS.
Is there a reason you never come right out and say what you believe? A simple Yes or No would save you, and everyone else, all kinds of time.
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Old 03-18-2016, 02:46 PM
 
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The Bible did not exist. Jesus was not Christian. He was Hebrew. So, how could he die for Bible believers ?

I think at some point, Jesus would have told his minions there would be a book they should refer to whenever they had a question about God or something.
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Old 03-18-2016, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Not true. The Bible as we know it wasn't assembled until the Fourth Century, AD.
"A" Bible may have been assembled in the 4th century, but even it was not "the Bible as we know it."
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Old 03-18-2016, 03:10 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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Psalms 133:1 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


Amos 3:3 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


John 17:21 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


Matthew 5:17-20 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


Matthew 4:4 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


Luke 4:4 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


2 Timothy 3:16 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


John 8:31 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


John 5:39 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


Hebrews 10:25 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


Psalms 1 means nothing with 90 % bible believers only.


Colossians 2:8 means nothing with 90 % bible believers only.


Matthew 15:14 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


John 8:44 means nothing with 90 % bible believers only.


Romans 10:9 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


Ephesians 2:8 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


1 Cor. 8:2 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


Matthew 7:21-24 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


1 John 2:15 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


2 Cor. 6 means nothing with 90 % bible believers only.


John 17:9 means nothing with 90 % bible believers only.


Matthew 10:34-37 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


John 3:16 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


2 Timothy 2:15 means nothing with 905 bible believers only.


1 John 2:27 means nothing with 90 % bible believers only.




Grace did it all has to do with no animals today.


Love did it all has to do with no circumcision today.




Grace did it all is NOT teaching to mock Romans 6:1.


Love did it all is NOT teaching to mock 2 Cor. 6.




Love only never been Christianity-----1 John 2:15


Forgiveness only never been Christianity-----Titus 3:10


Faith only never been Christianity-----John 5:39


Fellowship only never been Christianity -----2 Cor. 6


Tithing only never been Christianity----Galations 1:8-9


Confession only never been Christianity-----Matthew 7:21-24


Simplicity only never been Christianity----1 Cor. 8:2


Inner character only never been Christianity-----1 Cor. 11 ENOUGH


Sermons only never been Christianity-----1 Timothy 2:9-14


Tongue talking only never been Christianity -----1 Cor. 14 ENOUGH


Marriage only never been Christianity----Romans 7:2-3


Weddings only never been Christianity----1 Peter 3:3


Loyalty only never been Christianity----Matthew 15:14


Ambition only never been Christianity----Luke 3:14


Overflow only never been Christianity ----Luke 12:15


Testimonies only never been Christianity-----Matthew 7:21-24


Miracles only never been Christianity----Romans 11:29


Self wisdom never been Christianity----Jeremiah 17:9


Intuition never been Christianity----Romans 10:17


Do as you please never been Christianity---2 Peter 1:20-21


Short cuts never been Christianity---2 Timothy 3:16


Hero legend never been Christianity---Matthew 10:34-37


Alternative government never been Christianity----Ephesians 5:22-23


Work ethics only never been Christianity---Hebrews 4


Lifestyle endorsement only never been Christianity----1 Cor. 7 ENOUGH


Partying only never been Christianity----1 Peter 4:1-4


Sober life only never been Christianity---Proverbs 20:1


Global outreach only never been Christianity -----Matthew 7:6


Everybody somebody never been Christianity----John 8:44


Knowing strangers always been Christianity----1 Thess. 5:12


All the bible always been Christianity----Matthew 5:17-20


Correct unity always been Christianity-----Amos 3:3 and Ephesians 4:5
Jesus Even Died For The Worst Sinner BUT NOT 90% Bible Believers ? How many thread are you going to start on this topic?
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Old 03-18-2016, 06:44 PM
 
Location: California
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Again, was the thief a bible believer? NO he was not..he just believed Jesus. Yet only the educated and the rabbis had access to the scrolls. The scrolls were NOT in the hands of the common people.
The thief didn't just "believed Jesus". Read the story

Luke 23:39-43New American Standard Bible (NASB)

39 One of the criminals who were hanged there was [a]hurling abuse at Him, saying, “Are You not the [b]Christ? Save Yourself and us!” 40 But the other answered, and rebuking him said, “Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? 41 And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving [c]what we deserve for our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.” 42 And he was saying, “Jesus, remember me when You come [d]in Your kingdom!” 43 And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise.”


what happened in order
1. One thief hanging was questioning Christs deity "if you are the Christ, save us and yourself!"
(a.k.a show us you are truly the Christ)
2. The other thief asked that person "DO you not Fear GOD? since you are under the same condemnation?
So this Thief defended Jesus deity, acknowledged his FATHER as the condemner. And there is sentences of condemnation that are REAL.
3. The Thief boldly went to proclaim the truth, that Christ "Did NOTHING WRONG" (in proclaiming to be the Savior & Gods Son, healing people, showing love and forgiveness, assigning a new covenant based on love). He also acknowledged that it is the DEEDS of the flesh that condemns us and that condemnation belongs to the Father, the same Spirit who sent us a life-giver so that we may live.
4. The Thief said REMEMBER ME when you come into your Kingdom! WOW, he acknowledged his holiness of being so mighty he has HIS OWN KINGDOM. So with everything that he said, he is truly saved. Thus Jesus said "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with me in paradise"
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Old 03-19-2016, 10:11 PM
 
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In answer to the question posed in the threads title, Jesus died for everyone without exception. That doesn't mean that all men are saved, but that Jesus paid the penalty for the sins of the entire human race so that anyone who places his faith in Jesus is eternally saved.
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes on Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
How a believer who after having been saved tends to his spiritual life is a different issue. God expects the believer to grow up spiritually, but whether he does or not he has eternal life given to him as a free gift which is received by grace through faith alone in Christ Jesus.
Eph. 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9] not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
1 Timothy 2:4
... who desires ALL people to be saved and come to full knowledge of [the] truth.

It's an active, ongoing result of a previous action.

And in the ongoing result of that action; desires (wants, wills) ALL MEN to be saved and come to the knowledge of truth. The action is indicative. Nowhere is it subjunctive, or that of being contingent or probable, nor imperative on the subjects response. Neither is it Optative, as in being unlikely or that of wishful thinking.
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