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Old 03-15-2016, 05:45 PM
 
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Psalms 133:1 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


Amos 3:3 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


John 17:21 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


Matthew 5:17-20 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


Matthew 4:4 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


Luke 4:4 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


2 Timothy 3:16 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


John 8:31 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


John 5:39 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


Hebrews 10:25 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


Psalms 1 means nothing with 90 % bible believers only.


Colossians 2:8 means nothing with 90 % bible believers only.


Matthew 15:14 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


John 8:44 means nothing with 90 % bible believers only.


Romans 10:9 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


Ephesians 2:8 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


1 Cor. 8:2 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


Matthew 7:21-24 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


1 John 2:15 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


2 Cor. 6 means nothing with 90 % bible believers only.


John 17:9 means nothing with 90 % bible believers only.


Matthew 10:34-37 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


John 3:16 means nothing with 90% bible believers only.


2 Timothy 2:15 means nothing with 905 bible believers only.


1 John 2:27 means nothing with 90 % bible believers only.




Grace did it all has to do with no animals today.


Love did it all has to do with no circumcision today.




Grace did it all is NOT teaching to mock Romans 6:1.


Love did it all is NOT teaching to mock 2 Cor. 6.




Love only never been Christianity-----1 John 2:15


Forgiveness only never been Christianity-----Titus 3:10


Faith only never been Christianity-----John 5:39


Fellowship only never been Christianity -----2 Cor. 6


Tithing only never been Christianity----Galations 1:8-9


Confession only never been Christianity-----Matthew 7:21-24


Simplicity only never been Christianity----1 Cor. 8:2


Inner character only never been Christianity-----1 Cor. 11 ENOUGH


Sermons only never been Christianity-----1 Timothy 2:9-14


Tongue talking only never been Christianity -----1 Cor. 14 ENOUGH


Marriage only never been Christianity----Romans 7:2-3


Weddings only never been Christianity----1 Peter 3:3


Loyalty only never been Christianity----Matthew 15:14


Ambition only never been Christianity----Luke 3:14


Overflow only never been Christianity ----Luke 12:15


Testimonies only never been Christianity-----Matthew 7:21-24


Miracles only never been Christianity----Romans 11:29


Self wisdom never been Christianity----Jeremiah 17:9


Intuition never been Christianity----Romans 10:17


Do as you please never been Christianity---2 Peter 1:20-21


Short cuts never been Christianity---2 Timothy 3:16


Hero legend never been Christianity---Matthew 10:34-37


Alternative government never been Christianity----Ephesians 5:22-23


Work ethics only never been Christianity---Hebrews 4


Lifestyle endorsement only never been Christianity----1 Cor. 7 ENOUGH


Partying only never been Christianity----1 Peter 4:1-4


Sober life only never been Christianity---Proverbs 20:1


Global outreach only never been Christianity -----Matthew 7:6


Everybody somebody never been Christianity----John 8:44


Knowing strangers always been Christianity----1 Thess. 5:12


All the bible always been Christianity----Matthew 5:17-20


Correct unity always been Christianity-----Amos 3:3 and Ephesians 4:5
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Old 03-15-2016, 05:50 PM
 
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Soooo..... Christ died just for the 100% Bible believers?

Is that what you believe, Tony?
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Old 03-15-2016, 06:58 PM
 
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In answer to the question posed in the threads title, Jesus died for everyone without exception. That doesn't mean that all men are saved, but that Jesus paid the penalty for the sins of the entire human race so that anyone who places his faith in Jesus is eternally saved.
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes on Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

How a believer who after having been saved tends to his spiritual life is a different issue. God expects the believer to grow up spiritually, but whether he does or not he has eternal life given to him as a free gift which is received by grace through faith alone in Christ Jesus.
Eph. 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9] not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:56 PM
 
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No one can pay the sins for another.

"The soul who sins shall die,"says the Lord

"When a wicked man turns from wickedness and does what is right and just he shall live."says the Lord

"All those who do good to the resurrection of life."

Only those who do the will of my heavenly Father shall enter the kingdom of heaven.
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Old 03-15-2016, 08:50 PM
 
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FLASH--CHRIST died for ZERO bible believers...
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:19 PM
 
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No one can pay the sins for another.

"The soul who sins shall die,"says the Lord

"When a wicked man turns from wickedness and does what is right and just he shall live."says the Lord

"All those who do good to the resurrection of life."

Only those who do the will of my heavenly Father shall enter the kingdom of heaven.
The fact that Jesus did indeed die for the sins of the world is well attested in the Bible. Contrary to what you proclaim, no one can be eternally saved by his own righteousness.
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:21 PM
 
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FLASH--CHRIST died for ZERO bible believers...
On what basis do you make that claim?
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:41 PM
 
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The fact that Jesus did indeed die for the sins of the world is well attested in the Bible. Contrary to what you proclaim, no one can be eternally saved by his own righteousness.
Actually Jesus Himself gave many statements about entering the kingdom of God none of which said He would pay the penalty for another's sin. It is those who misunderstand His teaching that choose to believe He died for their sin. Scripture clearly states no one can pay for another's sin.

Correct. No one can use their own righteousness to be saved but those who possess eternal life possess the righteousness of the God of Israel to be saved.

"The words of the Lord are upright and all His works are truthful, He loves justice and right."
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:47 PM
 
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But, there was no 'Bible' ...what are you talking about?
How could someone die for something that did not exist?
What am I missing?
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:13 PM
 
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Actually Jesus Himself gave many statements about entering the kingdom of God none of which said He would pay the penalty for another's sin. It is those who misunderstand His teaching that choose to believe He died for their sin. Scripture clearly states no one can pay for another's sin.

Correct. No one can use their own righteousness to be saved but those who possess eternal life possess the righteousness of the God of Israel to be saved.

"The words of the Lord are upright and all His works are truthful, He loves justice and right."
Actually, Jesus applied Isaiah 53 to Himself. As recorded in Luke 22:37 Jesus referred to a portion of Isaiah 53:12 and said it must be fulfilled in Him.
Luke 22:37 '"For I tell you that this which is written must be fulfilled in Me, 'AND HE WAS NUMBERED WITH TRANSGRESSORS'; for that which refers to Me has its fulfillment."
Isaiah 53:12 goes on to say, ''. . . Because He poured out Himself to death, And was numbered with the transgressors; Yet He Himself bore the sin of many, And interceded for the transgressors.
Now, the entirety of Isaiah 53:12 has the same referent. Therefore all of Isaiah 53:12 refers to Jesus, as does the entirety of Isaiah 53.

In applying Isaiah 53 to Himself, Jesus made it clear that He was to bear the sins of many and intercede for the transgressors.


Further, the apostle Phillip applied Isaiah 53 to Jesus when he began preaching Jesus to the Ethiopian Eunuch from Isaiah 53. See Acts 8:26-35 for the details.

Additionally, Jesus made it clear that He was to give His life for many in (Matthew 20:28). That was a reference to the fact that He was going to die for the sins of the world.

As well, there are a number of other New Testament passages which make it clear that Jesus died for the sins of the world.

Denying that Jesus died for the sins of the world, denying that He died for your sins is nothing less than a rejection of the gospel message.
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