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Old 03-28-2017, 01:31 AM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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Was the Doctrine of Hell Manufactured by Theologians?

 
Old 03-30-2017, 07:44 AM
 
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The Lord who sent me says this;

"Whoever offers praise as a sacrifice glorifies me and to him who goes the right way I shall show the salvation of God."
 
Old 06-01-2017, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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It's a Garbage Dump for humanity according to their corrupted teachings, and extremely disheartening.

 
Old 06-01-2017, 03:33 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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No one can be saved unless God has chosen them to salvation - the book of Romans is clear on that point.

Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. The scriptures are clear on that point as well.

God will accomplish all his desire - no arguing with that.


Yay!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️GOD IS ❤️❤️❤️❤️
 
Old 06-01-2017, 05:51 PM
 
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No one can be saved unless God has chosen them to salvation - the book of Romans is clear on that point.

Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. The scriptures are clear on that point as well.

God will accomplish all his desire - no arguing with that.


you believe in predestination.. I don't ... I believe he predestines the church and predestines believers as groups but he does not predestine individuals or does he make anyone do anything against their own hearts.. except rare occasions (and I think they are mostly pre-born /relive or mantled souls who were pre lived sometime for very specific purposes ( like I think it is is very possible Japheth daughter is a p-reborn and is probably here now and has some important role to play in the restoration of all things, but every Elijah to come might be a mantled/officed individual or maybe a p-reborn ) like Japheth daughter will always be Japheth daughter with the same heart and soul and values. and God might do that to make sure his purposes are accomplished not leaving anything up to chance because Jatheth or Elijah's will probably be very predictable elements in any equation and needed for his purposes . thus free will is still in effect like a train on a track ... every hobo can jump on that train. and the pre-re-borns are probably the train that will lead the way .. thus they will prove to be the train or the track depending on how you wish to look at it.. And once on that train when you accept the churches/ bodies of Christ's pre -determined path , you then have covenant with a destination and the destination is The Father, Not salvation .. it doesn't stop there at salvation , it goes all the way to the Father !

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Old 06-01-2017, 06:20 PM
 
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We are not predestine to sin, that's choice; but we are predestine to holiness.
Each in their own order, not as you will, rather his will be done according to him.
 
Old 06-01-2017, 09:25 PM
 
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We are not predestine to sin, that's choice; but we are predestine to holiness.
Each in their own order, not as you will, rather his will be done according to him.
NO...
sin is and will always be a choice , with out choice there is no such thing as Love , marriage, or commitments ! the freedom to love is at the heart of free will. but there is consequences for our actions and inactions .
we learn from the feast of weeks which ends tonight that two loaves of leavened bread( not quick righteousness of fast flat bread ..) thoroughly risen and baked in God's ovens is righteousness and the most perfect wave offering.. two... it takes two baby, it takes two.. to make your dreams come true! and that happens only through him and his design and through his processes and his example of perfect Love that covers sins of others who repent and ask for it , who think they need it . those who know with out him there is no example of love anywhere that isn't selfish and self centered and greedy.
thus there is no such thing as love that covers a multitude of sins without free will.
that means that sin will always exist but righteousness and understanding( thus repentance ) is available to all who request it. and will be for all time .
 
Old 06-02-2017, 08:50 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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No one can be saved unless God has chosen them to salvation - the book of Romans is clear on that point.

Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. The scriptures are clear on that point as well.

God will accomplish all his desire - no arguing with that.


And the scriptures are clear that -
Jesus damns those who are cursed, people who are as Jesus calls
  • "on the left"
  • the "evildoers"
  • the "weeds"
  • the " goats"
  • the "dogs"
  • the " Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life"
And the scriptures are clear that -
"the Lord searches every heart and understands every desire and every thought.
If you seek him, he will be found by you;
but if you forsake him, he will reject you forever." ~ God

"whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin. ~ Jesus
anyone who claims otherwise (there is no hell \ hell is some temporary durable existence ) will be shown for what they are.
 
Old 06-02-2017, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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And the scriptures are clear that -
Jesus damns those who are cursed, people who are as Jesus calls
  • "on the left"
  • the "evildoers"
  • the "weeds"
  • the " goats"
  • the "dogs"
  • the " Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life"
And the scriptures are clear that -
"the Lord searches every heart and understands every desire and every thought.
If you seek him, he will be found by you;
but if you forsake him, he will reject you forever." ~ God

"whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin. ~ Jesus
anyone who claims otherwise (there is no hell \ hell is some temporary durable existence ) will be shown for what they are.
I see, you have put together your resume of condemnation:


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Old 06-02-2017, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Hmm, 3 beliefs about salvation...never gave it much thought..
I can say 3 ways to be happy here on earth...like a secret formula...
Then all other things fall into place naturally:

1. Acknowledge God in all your ways -Psalms
2. Delight in the Lord - Psalms
3. Keep your mind stayed on Him - Isaiah

4. Seek the Kingdom of Heaven first - Jesus

(5. Study Jesus' ways and words...then do what he says...)
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