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Old 07-02-2017, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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By William Barclay (well known Bible expositor)
“I am a convinced universalist. I believe that in the end everyone will be gathered into the love of God. The only victory love can enjoy is the day when its offer of love is answered by the return of love. The only possible final triumph is a universe loved by and in love with God.”
[Quoted from William Barclay: A Spiritual Autobiography, William B Eerdmans Publishing Company, Grand Rapids, 1977.]

The writings of several dozens of other "convinced universalists."
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THREE MORE TREASURE HOUSES OF CHRISTIAN UNIVERSALIST ARTICLES
Christian Universalism Articles by Title
Christian Universalism Articles
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Old 07-02-2017, 07:24 AM
 
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I still need a redeemer to set me free from my sin nature. Yeshua was the perfect atonement for mankind's sinfulness. I will follow Him.
 
Old 07-02-2017, 08:14 AM
 
Location: USA
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I still need a redeemer to set me free from my sin nature. Yeshua was the perfect atonement for mankind's sinfulness. I will follow Him.
I'm not sure if you are confirming that you agree with Rodger/Christian Universalism, or if you think your statement somehow means that you are not in agreement with him? Would you mind clarifying?
 
Old 07-02-2017, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Default What Jesus will do with everyone

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Old 07-02-2017, 10:08 AM
 
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By William Barclay (well known Bible expositor)
“I am a convinced universalist. I believe that in the end everyone will be gathered into the love of God. The only victory love can enjoy is the day when its offer of love is answered by the return of love. The only possible final triumph is a universe loved by and in love with God.”
[Quoted from William Barclay: A Spiritual Autobiography, William B Eerdmans Publishing Company, Grand Rapids, 1977.]

The writings of several dozens of other "convinced universalists."
The Authors Page

THREE MORE TREASURE HOUSES OF CHRISTIAN UNIVERSALIST ARTICLES
Christian Universalism Articles by Title
Christian Universalism Articles
God's Truth For Today!

Universal salvation myth is destroyed by the book.....it does not happen

Revelation 20:11-15King James Version (KJV)

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

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Old 07-02-2017, 10:23 AM
 
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Universal salvation myth is destroyed by the book.....it does not happen

Revelation 20:11-15King James Version (KJV)

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

King James Version (KJV)
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I'd just like to point out that the word lake there means "safe haven, like a harbor in a storm", and our G-d is a consuming fire who sits as a refiner of men who consumed a bush but the bush was not destroyed, and makes His ministers to be flames of fire. I wonder what a whole bunch of flaming ministers (are they not ALL ministering spirits?) would look like in the Spirit? Peace
 
Old 07-02-2017, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I'd just like to point out that the word lake there means "safe haven, like a harbor in a storm", and our G-d is a consuming fire who sits as a refiner of men who consumed a bush but the bush was not destroyed, and makes His ministers to be flames of fire. I wonder what a whole bunch of flaming ministers (are they not ALL ministering spirits?) would look like in the Spirit? Peace
Now, that's something we can both wrap our heart and mind around.
 
Old 07-02-2017, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Universal salvation myth is destroyed by the book.....it does not happen.
The myth is that of Hades being an underworld of pain and suffering.
Or, the Lake of Fire being a place of eternal punishment or torment.
 
Old 07-02-2017, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I still need a redeemer to set me free from my sin nature. Yeshua was the perfect atonement for mankind's sinfulness. I will follow Him.
Love will cover it, once you own it.
 
Old 07-03-2017, 04:04 AM
 
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Like universalism salvation believe just like many Christians of life in the earth , where they draw the line is the afterlife , and any judgment seat of Jesus Christ which is rejected in the after life , and eternal damnation of any is a outrage ............... where One reason for hell is that God does not have any purpose for people that reject Him , just like would you get married to a person who hates and ignores you , where God marries His children who seek after Him
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