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UR is a lie from the pit of Hell signed by Satan himself. You have to completely ignore Jesus's statement in Matthew 7-13:14 to believe it.
So you are saying God is Satan? God is the One Who will have all mankind to be saved because Christ ransomed all mankind (1 Timothy 2:4-6).
Since 1 Timothy 2:4-6 was told by Christ to Paul years after Christ told the Israelites Matthew 7:13,14, we are obliged to believe Christ as to God saving all mankind and believe Christ concerning few finding the way to life through the law of Moses.
Matthew 7:13-14 through the cramped gate, for broad is the gate and spacious is the way which is leading away into destruction, and many are those entering through it. (14) what a cramped gate and narrowed way is the one leading away into life, and few are those who are finding it.
Christ was talking about the law of Moses and what a cramped it is to go through it. But that does not negate the fact that God will save all eventually. But there are still judgments looming on the horizon for mankind.
Jesus makes salvation possible for men, but not automatic.
No, Christ ransomed all mankind and it is for that reason that "God will have all mankind to be saved" (see 1 Timothy 2:4-6).
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Universalism was dreamt up in the 1800s.
No, John the beloved and Paul the apostle were given divine revelation that God is going to save all mankind in the 1st century and in fact the majority of the early church believed that as well.
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It is heretical and not in agreement with the any of the apostolic churches
or mainstream protestant churches.
That just shows the apostolic churches and mainstream protestant churches are apostate.
So you are saying God is Satan? God is the One Who will have all mankind to be saved because Christ ransomed all mankind (1 Timothy 2:4-6).
Since 1 Timothy 2:4-6 was told by Christ to Paul years after Christ told the Israelites Matthew 7:13,14, we are obliged to believe Christ as to God saving all mankind and believe Christ concerning few finding the way to life through the law of Moses.
Matthew 7:13-14 through the cramped gate, for broad is the gate and spacious is the way which is leading away into destruction, and many are those entering through it. (14) what a cramped gate and narrowed way is the one leading away into life, and few are those who are finding it.
Christ was talking about the law of Moses and what a cramped it is to go through it. But that does not negate the fact that God will save all eventually. But there are still judgments looming on the horizon for mankind.
I could have written your response for you. It is predictable.
And no I'm saying God who is Jesus said the majority are on the path to destruction. You can twist that all around if you'd like but the reality is not going to change.
I could have written your response for you. It is predictable.
And no I'm saying God who is Jesus said the majority are on the path to destruction. You can twist that all around if you'd like but the reality is not going to change.
1 Timothy 2:4
... who desires all people to be saved and come to full knowledge of [the] truth.
It's an active, ongoing result of a previous action.
And in the ongoing result of that action; desires (wants, wills) all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of truth. The action isindicative. Nowhere is it subjunctive, or that of being contingent or probable, nor imperative on the subjects response. Neither is it Optative, as in being unlikely or wishful thinking that men might come to this salvation and knowledge.
You should investigate that which will be destroyed; it's not the man himself.
So you are saying God is Satan? God is the One Who will have all mankind to be saved because Christ ransomed all mankind (1 Timothy 2:4-6).
Since 1 Timothy 2:4-6 was told by Christ to Paul years after Christ told the Israelites Matthew 7:13,14, we are obliged to believe Christ as to God saving all mankind and believe Christ concerning few finding the way to life through the law of Moses.
Matthew 7:13-14 through the cramped gate, for broad is the gate and spacious is the way which is leading away into destruction, and many are those entering through it. (14) what a cramped gate and narrowed way is the one leading away into life, and few are those who are finding it.
Christ was talking about the law of Moses and what a cramped it is to go through it. But that does not negate the fact that God will save all eventually. But there are still judgments looming on the horizon for mankind.
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So you are saying God is Satan? God is the One Who will have all mankind to be saved because Christ ransomed all mankind (1 Timothy 2:4-6).
God created Satan with full foreknowledge of what Satan would be and what Satan would do. God, being omnipotent, got exactly the result He intended to get when He created Satan. Give Satan all of the free will he wants, Satan will never do one thing more, or less then God fully knew and intended that he would do when God created him in the first place. Satan is therefore merely God's alter ego; God's evil mask, and Satan is carrying out God's will as God always intended, since nothing else is possible.
God created Satan with full foreknowledge of what Satan would be and what Satan would do. God, being omnipotent, got exactly the result He intended to get when He created Satan. Give Satan all of the free will he wants, Satan will never do one thing more, or less then God fully knew and intended that he would do when God created him in the first place. Satan is therefore merely God's alter ego; God's evil mask, and Satan is carrying out God's will as God always intended, since nothing else is possible.
No, first of all, you meant to say "omniscient", not "omnipotent".
It is and was the Divine Will of the Father to create men, and angels,
possessing Free Will. Satan exercised its own free will to rebel against God,
and so did man. In your own free will, love God who created you, and do
not complain of what you cannot judge.
I could have written your response for you. It is predictable.
And no I'm saying God who is Jesus said the majority are on the path to destruction. You can twist that all around if you'd like but the reality is not going to change.
Define "destruction."
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