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Old 07-06-2017, 11:54 AM
 
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If by "doesn't judge" you mean that there are no consequences for out anti-social behavior, I hsave never see ptsum indicate that. Generally speaking it is knowingly a false statement of liberal positions.

Uh huh. So when I read that G-d is not angry at all, has no wrath, not judging anyone, ect., ect., in y'all's posts, and I repeat that, that is knowingly speaking a false statement of liberal positions. Right. Peace
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Old 07-06-2017, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Attack, attack, attack. Do you have any valid arguments?
Here is a valid argument for you jimmie.

the belief in eternal torment or annihilation teach people that God can sin (miss the mark) as God sent Jesus into the world for the salvation of the world and according to you God will miss his mark, which is sin.

So please explain why you believe God will miss His mark?
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Old 07-06-2017, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Uh huh. So when I read that G-d is not angry at all, has no wrath, not judging anyone, ect., ect., in y'all's posts, and I repeat that, that is knowingly speaking a false statement of liberal positions. Right. Peace
No we just don't see Gods wrath and judgment as an unending tormenting fire. We see it as a correcting process.

And man is not suppose to judge man, if God wants to tell someone something they do is a sin that is up to God to reveal it to them.

Some people try to force feed others with a slingshot; others use a shotgun.

Put away all weapons and let God do what God will do as He is quite capable of correcting people all on his own.
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Old 07-06-2017, 01:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Jerwade View Post
So, If you asked someone to marry you, and they declined.
You would punish and torment them for ever, and ever?
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We are not God. God is holy, pure. We are sinful, flawed.
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So, it would be evil if a man did it, but it's holy and pure when [as you believe] God does it.

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Yes. When pure is mixed with impure, the total becomes impure. Through the blood of Christ, we are made pure again and can be in fellowship with our holy Father.
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And then those who are made pure can also punish and torment others forever.
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Attack, attack, attack. Do you have any valid arguments?
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Follow your own line of reasoning, and you will see that what I presented to you was a valid point, not an attack.
You're not going to bother following your own line of reasoning to the obvious conclusion, are you jimmie.
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Old 07-06-2017, 01:17 PM
Status: "Build the damn wall!" (set 7 days ago)
 
Location: The Haunted Mansion
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You're not going to bother following your own line of reasoning to the obvious conclusion, are you jimmie.
Instead of responding to my point about God's holiness, you accuse traditional Christians of being judgemental.
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Old 07-06-2017, 01:32 PM
 
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Instead of responding to my point about God's holiness, you accuse traditional Christians of being judgemental.
Wrong. Read it again. Read YOUR OWN line of reasoning about how God, because God is PURE, can righteously punish and torment people for eternity for not loving God. Follow that to how you believe Christians are made PURE by God. What is the end point of such reasoning other than that Christians can, like you believe God does, righteously punish and torment others for eternity once they are also PURE?
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Old 07-06-2017, 02:42 PM
Status: "Build the damn wall!" (set 7 days ago)
 
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Here is a valid argument for you jimmie.

the belief in eternal torment or annihilation teach people that God can sin (miss the mark) as God sent Jesus into the world for the salvation of the world and according to you God will miss his mark, which is sin.

So please explain why you believe God will miss His mark?
God cannot sin. That's utter nonsense.
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Old 07-06-2017, 02:45 PM
Status: "Build the damn wall!" (set 7 days ago)
 
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wrong. Read it again. Read your own line of reasoning about how god, because god is pure, can righteously punish and torment people for eternity for not loving god. Follow that to how you believe christians are made pure by god. What is the end point of such reasoning other than that christians can, like you believe god does, righteously punish and torment others for eternity once they are also pure?
s-t-r-e-t-c-h
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Old 07-06-2017, 02:51 PM
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By William Barclay (well known Bible expositor)
I am a convinced universalist. I believe that in the end everyone will be gathered into the love of God. The only victory love can enjoy is the day when its offer of love is answered by the return of love. The only possible final triumph is a universe loved by and in love with God.
[Quoted from William Barclay: A Spiritual Autobiography, William B Eerdmans Publishing Company, Grand Rapids, 1977.]

The writings of several dozens of other "convinced universalists."
The Authors Page

THREE MORE TREASURE HOUSES OF CHRISTIAN UNIVERSALIST ARTICLES
Christian Universalism Articles by Title
Christian Universalism Articles
God's Truth For Today!
Ugh. None of them worth reading.
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Old 07-06-2017, 02:55 PM
Status: "Just crying wolf" (set 12 days ago)
 
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Here is a valid argument for you jimmie.

the belief in eternal torment or annihilation teach people that God can sin (miss the mark) as God sent Jesus into the world for the salvation of the world and according to you God will miss his mark, which is sin.

So please explain why you believe God will miss His mark?
If we define sin by "missing the mark"....what mark do you mean? If HE defines the mark, how can he miss it?
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