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Old 07-06-2017, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Canada
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God cannot sin. That's utter nonsense.
And that is the point. God cannot sin so how is it you believe the world will not be saved when God sent Jesus for the salvation of the world? If the world is not saved then God misses His mark.
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Old 07-06-2017, 03:20 PM
 
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If we define sin by "missing the mark"....what mark do you mean? If HE defines the mark, how can he miss it?
God did define His mark, the salvation of the world so if the world is not then saved God missed the mark He set.
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Old 07-06-2017, 04:39 PM
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Location: The Haunted Mansion
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And that is the point. God cannot sin so how is it you believe the world will not be saved when God sent Jesus for the salvation of the world? If the world is not saved then God misses His mark.
How did you determine that?
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Old 07-06-2017, 07:27 PM
 
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You're not going to bother following your own line of reasoning to the obvious conclusion, are you jimmie.
You cannot lead someone to a different conclusion through reason when their original conclusion was NOT reached through reason, Pleroo!
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Old 07-06-2017, 07:32 PM
 
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Instead of responding to my point about God's holiness, you accuse traditional Christians of being judgemental.
Please explain the concept of Justice that can in any way incorporate an eternal Hell as a consequence with no reprieve, jimmie. What kind of Justice would that be?
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Old 07-07-2017, 01:33 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Please explain the concept of Justice that can in any way incorporate an eternal Hell as a consequence with no reprieve, jimmie. What kind of Justice would that be?
It's called "vengeance," and it completely violates the principle of "an eye for an eye."
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Old 07-07-2017, 01:52 AM
 
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Please explain the concept of Justice that can in any way incorporate an eternal Hell as a consequence with no reprieve, jimmie. What kind of Justice would that be?
An Injustice!

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It's called "vengeance," and it completely violates the principle of "an eye for an eye."
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Old 07-07-2017, 03:25 AM
 
Location: East Coast
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How did you determine that?
If God tried to do something and failed to achieve it he's missed the mark..... God said all things are impossible, I guess he was wrong saying that in your eyes.
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Old 07-07-2017, 12:33 PM
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God did define His mark, the salvation of the world so if the world is not then saved God missed the mark He set.
Scripture does not suggest that for a second. No way, no how.
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Old 07-07-2017, 12:35 PM
 
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Scripture does not suggest that for a second. No way, no how.

Which? That God missed the mark, or that God intended to save the world?
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