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Old 07-18-2017, 07:34 PM
 
Location: GOVERNMENT of TRAITORS & NAZIS
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As usual, you misrepresent the truth. God did NOT create us in sin. It was/is a choice. You have said many times here that people should just stop sinning.

Acts 2:38
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
When is the last time you read that ancient book?

Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.-----Psalm 51:5


Genesis 8:21 declares, “. . . the intent of man’s heart is evil from his youth.”

(Psalm 58:3) "The wicked are estranged from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth."

Yet the "gift of the HS" still does not stop man from sinning does it?
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:38 PM
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Location: The Haunted Mansion
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When is the last time you read that ancient book?

Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.-----Psalm 51:5


Genesis 8:21 declares, “. . . the intent of man’s heart is evil from his youth

(Psalm 58:3) "The wicked are estranged from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth."

Yet the "gift of the HS" still does not stop man from sinning does it?
This morning.

“Just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so sin spread through all men” (Romans 5:12).

See also Genesis 3.
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Old 07-22-2017, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Post Whatsoever is of good report think on this thing - Phil 4:8

By William Barclay (well known Bible expositor)
“I am a convinced universalist. I believe that in the end everyone will be gathered into the love of God. The only victory love can enjoy is the day when its offer of love is answered by the return of love. The only possible final triumph is a universe loved by and in love with God.”
[Quoted from William Barclay: A Spiritual Autobiography, William B Eerdmans Publishing Company, Grand Rapids, 1977.]
The writings of several dozens of other "convinced universalists."
The Authors Page

THREE MORE TREASURE HOUSES OF CHRISTIAN UNIVERSALIST ARTICLES
Christian Universalism Articles by Title
Christian Universalism Articles
God's Truth For Today!
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Old 07-22-2017, 07:31 AM
 
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By William Barclay (well known Bible expositor)
“I am a convinced universalist. I believe that in the end everyone will be gathered into the love of God. The only victory love can enjoy is the day when its offer of love is answered by the return of love. The only possible final triumph is a universe loved by and in love with God.”
[Quoted from William Barclay: A Spiritual Autobiography, William B Eerdmans Publishing Company, Grand Rapids, 1977.]
The writings of several dozens of other "convinced universalists."
The Authors Page

THREE MORE TREASURE HOUSES OF CHRISTIAN UNIVERSALIST ARTICLES
Christian Universalism Articles by Title
Christian Universalism Articles
God's Truth For Today!
That's a beautiful quote. Thanks for posting these articles, Rodger.
Much love to you brother,
sparrow
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Old 07-22-2017, 09:46 AM
 
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By William Barclay (well known Bible expositor)
“I am a convinced universalist. I believe that in the end everyone will be gathered into the love of God. The only victory love can enjoy is the day when its offer of love is answered by the return of love. The only possible final triumph is a universe loved by and in love with God.”
[Quoted from William Barclay: A Spiritual Autobiography, William B Eerdmans Publishing Company, Grand Rapids, 1977.]
The writings of several dozens of other "convinced universalists."
The Authors Page

THREE MORE TREASURE HOUSES OF CHRISTIAN UNIVERSALIST ARTICLES
Christian Universalism Articles by Title
Christian Universalism Articles
God's Truth For Today!
Happy thought, beautiful hope.

Thanks, Rodger.
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Old 07-22-2017, 10:00 PM
 
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That's a beautiful quote. Thanks for posting these articles, Rodger.
Much love to you brother,
sparrow
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Happy thought, beautiful hope.
Thanks, Rodger.
I join our sisters in appreciating your post, Rodger.
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Old 07-23-2017, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA
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i found out one of the things i am, by coming to this forum years ago, has a label !
I'm a Universalist.
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Old 07-23-2017, 05:05 PM
 
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i found out one of the things i am, by coming to this forum years ago, has a label !
I'm a Universalist.
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Old 07-25-2017, 04:30 AM
 
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There are a great number of well-known people of every religious persuasion that say many things. Being well-known doesn't make what they say true. That evidence is based on what they base their beliefs on.

What is the source for the belief system of Universalist? Where do your teachings, guides, laws, and beliefs come from? Muslims follow the Koran, Mormons follow the Book of Mormon, Christians follow the Bible, etc., Upon what writings do Universalists follow?
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Old 07-25-2017, 10:20 AM
 
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There are a great number of well-known people of every religious persuasion that say many things. Being well-known doesn't make what they say true. That evidence is based on what they base their beliefs on.

What is the source for the belief system of Universalist? Where do your teachings, guides, laws, and beliefs come from? Muslims follow the Koran, Mormons follow the Book of Mormon, Christians follow the Bible, etc., Upon what writings do Universalists follow?
Some Christians who accept some form of "universalism" think the bible is the word of God. Some of them, who tend toward a more literal view of much of the bible (unless it very obviously was something such as metaphor or visions), refer to themselves as "Evangelical Universalists", I believe, so if you are interested in their understanding, you can google that phrase. They tend to be fairly orthodox in their doctrines.* Other Christians who accept some form of "universalism", who think the bible is the word of God, tend towards a more symbolic view of the Bible. That would be people like L. Ray Smith and J. Preston Eby, I believe. Still other Christians who accept some form of "universalism" think the bible contains things inspired by God, but recognize that it is not inerrant, nor infallible. So, the beliefs about the bible among Christians who accept some form of "universalism" run the gamut, but since they are Christians, they all do lay claim to the bible as a source of truth.

I'm not a Christian. I don't "follow" a book. But I appreciate the wisdom and beauty of the spirit of such a hope, which I believe is consistent with much that is said in the bible:


“I am a convinced universalist. I believe that in the end everyone will be gathered into the love of God. The only victory love can enjoy is the day when its offer of love is answered by the return of love. The only possible final triumph is a universe loved by and in love with God.”



*You may find this helpful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnuLnBakS6w

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