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Old 02-16-2017, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Canada
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We do teach and preach that. Jesus died for the sins of mankind. Won't you believe?
That is not teaching this


Jesus Christ is the saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

What you teach is Jesus Christ is the potential savior of all men. which is not scriptural
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Old 02-16-2017, 12:13 PM
 
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Again, scripture indicates salvation is offered only on this side of the grave.
No it does not.

After all judgment is passed the people without the gate, the dogs, liars etc. if they keep his commandments have a right to the tree of life.

And after Jesus died he went and led captivity captive.
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Old 02-16-2017, 12:14 PM
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Location: The Haunted Mansion
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That is not teaching this


Jesus Christ is the saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

What you teach is Jesus Christ is the potential savior of all men. which is not scriptural
And you do not teach the second half of that verse. Nor do you teach John 3:16.
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Old 02-16-2017, 12:16 PM
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No it does not.

After all judgment is passed the people without the gate, the dogs, liars etc. if they keep his commandments have a right to the tree of life.

And after Jesus died he went and led captivity captive.
Yes, it does. Jesus speaks of a "chasm". Paul says after death comes judgement.
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Old 02-16-2017, 12:27 PM
 
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And you do not teach the second half of that verse. Nor do you teach John 3:16.
quote the scripture jim, don't know which one you are referring to.

Again this is what we are COMMANDED to teach

Jesus Christ is the saviour of ALL MEN, specially of those that believe.

Anything other then teaching that amounts as I have shown to teaching God missed the mark I.E sins
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Old 02-16-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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Yes, it does. Jesus speaks of a "chasm". Paul says after death comes judgement.
You do not understand the parable and judgment begins with the house of God. That right, JUDGMENT BEGINS with the house of God.
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Old 02-16-2017, 12:31 PM
 
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quote the scripture jim, don't know which one you are referring to.

Again this is what we are COMMANDED to teach

Jesus Christ is the saviour of ALL MEN, specially of those that believe.

Anything other then teaching that amounts as I have shown to teaching God missed the mark I.E sins
Do you really want to teach people God is a sinner? then stop teaching that he is.

You have done this in ignorance that it is what you are doing, but now if you continue you do so knowingly.
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Old 02-16-2017, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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A classic sign of false doctrine is to take one verse, of which they have no understanding, and make a doctrine out of it.
If it were a matter of one verse out of context, you would have a point, but you refuse to look into all that is said on the subject because it goes against what you have been taught all your life to which you so despeately cling.
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Old 02-16-2017, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Because both Jesus and Paul taught there is no chance at redemption after physical death. "Now is the day of salvation." 2 Cor. 6:2
Why do you think "now" stops being now when a particular "now" passes? Why do you think that "judgement" entails an eternity of torment rather than facing the consequences of your choices in a learning environment?
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Old 02-16-2017, 02:51 PM
 
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Why do you think "now" stops being now when a particular "now" passes?
It can never not be now.
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