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The Holy Bible teaches that "love" rejoices in the Truth. Also, not every spirit is from God, even if it's disguised as being so.
1 John 4
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
But you do NOT "try the spirits" because you do NOT use the test Jesus described in detail - the characteristics of the Holy Spirit (who IS God). IF the spirit of what you read in the Bible contradicts or conflicts with the characteristics of the Holy Spirit described in 1 Cor 13, Galatians 5, or the Sermon on the Mount, it can NOT be from God or Jesus, period.
But you do NOT "try the spirits" because you do NOT use the test Jesus described in detail - the characteristics of the Holy Spirit (who IS God). IF the spirit of what you read in the Bible contradicts or conflicts with the characteristics of the Holy Spirit described in 1 Cor 13, Galatians 5, or the Sermon on the Mount, it can NOT be from God or Jesus, period.
There is only one Word, and it is not a book, and there is only one Guide mandated by that Word as recorded in your authority and you refuse to look to the nature of that Guide as taught by Jesus.
(Luke 1:70,79 KJV)
(70) As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began: (79) To give light to them that sit in darkness and {in} the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.
(Joshua 1:8 KJV)
(8) This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.
(2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV)
(16) All scripture {is} given by inspiration of God, and {is} profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (17) That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Jimmiej, the Bible can be a good TOOL for the Spirit, but it is not "authority" or "guide" in itself. Ask yourself how those "scriptures" can be useful if not to the Spirit.
It never ceases to amaze me how and why Sola Scriptura adherents will labor so mightily to set up an authority to replace the one mandated as recorded in that authority.
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Well said
They say they believe every word of the Bible yet don't believe that the Holy Spirit is that and that alone that will lead us into all trueth nor what scripture plainly commands us to teach.
One of the reasons I speak out against et is that it teaches everyone that God is a sinner as he misses his mark.
But you do NOT "try the spirits" because you do NOT use the test Jesus described in detail - the characteristics of the Holy Spirit (who IS God). IF the spirit of what you read in the Bible contradicts or conflicts with the characteristics of the Holy Spirit described in 1 Cor 13, Galatians 5, or the Sermon on the Mount, it can NOT be from God or Jesus, period.
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Originally Posted by jimmiej
Even if Jesus said so?
If it contradicts or conflicts with the Holy Spirit as described by Jesus, then Jesus never said it, jimmie. You are refusing to use the very authority Jesus told us to expect and the characteristics by which we are to know it is of the Holy Spirit.
In theory I like Universalism and the Universalists.
Of course fundamentalists like Matt Slick and the CARM group don't like it, and they are their worst nightmare.
Christianity is an exclusive religion, with exclusive denominations and even "non-denominations" within it, that want us to think it is impossible to be saved without their brand of religion. (or non-religion as fundies would say)
Now harmonize the ET doctrine with what we are commanded to teach. Which is
Jesus Christ is the saviour of ALL MEN, specially of those that believe. this command and teach. I will be waiting.
It's already been addressed, but you can't bear to hear it; therefore, it would be pointless to provide even more Scripture that clearly debunks your one-verse doctrine. So, as to your doctrine, it has no place in me. You'll just have to find someone else who wants their ears tickled. I'm sure there are many out there.
It's already been addressed, but you can't bear to hear it; therefore, it would be pointless to provide even more Scripture that clearly debunks your one-verse doctrine. So, as to your doctrine, it has no place in me. You'll just have to find someone else who wants their ears tickled. I'm sure there are many out there.
Actually, there are 150-220 verses in the Scriptures which speak to that of all mankind being Reconciled. However, your lack of understanding has left you with a closed mind that cannot harmonize them with what you believe is the truth. Thus, you preach another gospel, under the guise of eternal damnation that conceals or hides the true nature of God.
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