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Old 03-23-2016, 02:13 PM
 
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No, the post of your own that you quote doesn't read very well.

In answer to the question you ask though, the Spirit says they are equal in value, but not in role. ...just my bowel movements on the subject.
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Old 03-23-2016, 02:15 PM
 
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The point, Age-enduring, in case you miss it again, is having a group of people discern together what is or is not appropriate. "Discernment" is in no way limited to the gift of discernment made by the Spirit to individuals.
That's why there's giftings in the church, and particular giftings, such as the prophets should get together to weigh and test.

Touché
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Old 03-23-2016, 02:16 PM
 
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No, the post of your own that you quote doesn't read very well.

In answer to the question you ask though, the Spirit says they are equal in value, but not in role. ...just my bowel movements on the subject.
And do some DEScriptions of roles that may vary constitute basis for PROscription for any other arrangement?
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Old 03-23-2016, 02:20 PM
 
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That's why there's giftings in the church, and particular giftings, such as the prophets should get together to weigh and test.

Touché
Well enough, but in my tradition information and perception on any matter may come from anywhere, so respect should be paid to the words of a child as well as any tested adult.
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Old 03-23-2016, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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I am fascinated by the fact that people have expressed the idea that following the Spirit is nothing more than internal imagining and "unicorns and butterflies," but when actually confronted with a brief example of discernment in that Spirit using some of the tools available to the Spirit, including scripture, recent sociological information, reason and most of all that concern for the well-being of everyone that is "agape," I get no reaction whatsoever.

Why do you suppose that is?

I honestly expected to show another of the phases generated in discernment, and that is input or questions from people expected to have encountered that Spirit. Perhaps that post was too obscure?
Either you are guided by the Spirit, or recent sociological information and 'reason'.
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Old 03-23-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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And do some DEScriptions of roles that may vary constitute basis for PROscription for any other arrangement?
I'm not sure what you're getting at? Everyone is different. Everyone is normal until you get to know them. But generally women are more emotional and men more logical, with other characteristics of either as well. Only when we align with our God given nature's do we achieve our highest potential. And with mutual complementation between men and women, always goes well. Is this thread trying to obfuscate some sort of idea you're trying to convey? You just need to spit it out.
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Old 03-23-2016, 02:50 PM
 
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Either you are guided by the Spirit, or recent sociological information and 'reason'.
Finn, the Spirit USES several tools to guide us. Did you miss that point? Why do you seek to limit the opertion of the Spirit, Finn? I hope it is not as I suspect, so that you can stand on perceptions no rational person would.

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Old 03-23-2016, 02:52 PM
 
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I'm not sure what you're getting at? Everyone is different. Everyone is normal until you get to know them. But generally women are more emotional and men more logical, with other characteristics of either as well. Only when we align with our God given nature's do we achieve our highest potential. And with mutual complementation between men and women, always goes well. Is this thread trying to obfuscate some sort of idea you're trying to convey? You just need to spit it out.
The point I was trying to make is that making rules to enforce what is "generally" true binds the individual expression and the variety of accommodations between people in a committed relationship OR in a community and should not be countenanced.

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Old 03-24-2016, 06:04 AM
 
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Finn, the Spirit USES several tools to guide us. Did you miss that point? Why do you seek to limit the opertion of the Spirit, Finn? I hope it is not as I suspect, so that you can stand on perceptions no rational person would.
I stand by what I said, and I am not limiting anything. You read some liberal blog in the internet which you agree with, and you say "the Spirit is guiding me". You are fooling no one but yourself.
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Old 03-24-2016, 06:23 AM
 
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I stand by what I said, and I am not limiting anything. You read some liberal blog in the internet which you agree with, and you say "the Spirit is guiding me". You are fooling no one but yourself.
As usual, Finn. you have no idea what you are talking about and you read what is written here with absolutely no comprehension because your mind is closed to anything that challenges your prejudices. As it happrns group discernment of the guidance of the Spirit is a three and a half century practice in my faith tradition. While I don't claim it is perfect as agendas creep in unexpectedly, it has led to some significant changes in our Society as well as some in general, such as the perception of the error of slavery.
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