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Old 04-02-2016, 10:46 AM
 
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God does not respond to need - He responds to faith. Spend enough time growing your faith muscles because He is (not because you need or want something from Him) and you get God's attention. It's that simple. Jesus couldn't do anything in Nazareth because of their lack of faith - they thought he was just / still the carpenter boy.
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Old 04-02-2016, 10:47 AM
 
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Well, then you never came upon MINE. I had extensive aggressive type of cancer that had spread to most of my internal organs when discovered. It was GONE within one week, thanks to my G-d. NO ONE did anything to me medically except take biopsies after the they found it.

Further, He healed my heart while I was in the hospital. They told me to call my family in, I rolled over and prayed for His perfect will to be done in me regardless, and the nurse came running in 3 hours later, telling me she had just watched my heart "get healed" on the heart monitor. This was in conjunction with me feeling like fire in my chest, which is His healing virtue. She was obviously a Christian, she believed without me telling her.

And, I had my elbow joint CRUSHED in an industrial accident, it was so bad to bend it at all sounded like someone chewing on marbles and you could hear it across a large room, plus it paralyzed my hand partially, and there was a bone fragment under the surface of the skin you could see and feel. Once again, intense heat felt, I fell under the power of G-d twice, and it was healed completely, they could find no damage with an arthrogram (sp.?).

Jehovah Rapha is His name, G-d is my healer. Know Him, get healed. Peace

And all without a single Doctor thinking "Holy cow! I need to show this to medical researchers and get a take on what happened ."

I once had a heart stress test done in which my heart beat funny once they put me on the table to lie down and monitor my recuperation rate . It threw the Dr ( an internist, not a specialist) a little and he went later to a cardiologist to ask what it meant . Turns out it meant my heart was in excellent shape , as the momentary rapid heartbeat was the sign of a healthy heart recouping from exercise faster and supplying more oxygen. But my point is the Dr was curious about even that small item that he didn't understand, yet we are asked to believe that these doctors just routinely shrug off tremendous miracles with no thought of seeking an explanation or sharing this with others for further investigation.

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Old 04-02-2016, 10:56 AM
 
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'Sensitive'...me? Nah! I eat babies don't ya know.

Good man! I'd hate to think of you taking up hospital and doctor time, using the equipment and medicine...and then claiming that it was your god that cured you.

Then I wouldn't bother with all that scientific and medical 'witchcraft' old chap. You just go home and pray.

Clear as a bell old boy. I hope not to read any further post from you regarding hospital/medical treatment that you are receiving...only that you are sat at home praying for a cure. Do let us know how you get on with that mate.


Come now Raf. Your are talking to a guy possibly/probably just given a death sentence , and you strike even me as being insensitive .
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Old 04-02-2016, 10:58 AM
 
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Except we are talking about physical events , not spiritual ones . I have no problems with spiritual things, believe it or not . But in what way will thinking " spiritually" help accept that a penguin swam to the ME and then walked across the land to get on the ark, or that a kangaroo hopped there from Australia, or a sloth sloooowwwlyyy made its way from S America , across the Atlantic, and down to the Middle East to get on Noaks Ark? Or that the Sun stood still ( something that actually would not even affect day and night. Think about it ) ?

Somehow these physical impossibilities become true when you shift into " spiritual thinking"? How so?
Why would a penguin need to get on the Ark?

You're asking the wrong person - I wasn't there. But, you must know that animals somehow know of an impending Tsunami. Birds are able to navigate with ridiculous precision. Maybe the flood included geological events as well - the waters came from under the earth, as well as falling as rain. Personally I don't know when Pangea broke up, as to transport of far flung animals.

Anyway, I think the context of my comment was to do with healing / miracles, which is a transaction or crossover effect on the natural realm from the spiritual, ...I wasn't really thinking about migration of animals at the flood.
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Old 04-02-2016, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Why would a penguin need to get on the Ark?

You're asking the wrong person - I wasn't there. But, you must know that animals somehow know of an impending Tsunami. Birds are able to navigate with ridiculous precision. Maybe the flood included geological events as well - the waters came from under the earth, as well as falling as rain. Personally I don't know when Pangea broke up, as to transport of far flung animals.

Anyway, I think the context of my comment was to do with healing / miracles, which is a transaction or crossover effect on the natural realm from the spiritual, ...I wasn't really thinking about migration of animals at the flood.
Side note, it had never rained before the flood. When Noah was building that ark, people had no concept of what rain was.
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Old 04-02-2016, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Britain had control of Palestine, but the precursor to the UN voted and Britain let them enter under the pressure of public world opinion, and then withdrew their help (and their military presence), thinking the few Jews they let in, would never be able to stand up against all the Arab nations surrounding them that came against them, considering they were better armed, and had trained armies or air force (Egypt), against refugees that didn't. Britain was guilty of treachery alright, but not the way you think. But G-d....Peace
Are you one of those that thinks Israel is perfectly justified in stealing Palestinian land....based on the ramblings of desert goat-herders?
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Old 04-02-2016, 12:36 PM
 
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Well...that must have been quite a sight. Just what type of heart monitor allowed a nurse to watch your heart get healed? One would think such a marvelous diagnostic tool would put cardiologists, and their extensive array of test equipment, out of business.

Lucky you! A healing!! I hope the other patients, who were not so blessed as to be healed even though I'm sure many of them also prayed to God, still got their post op care, pain shots, and vitals taken while this nurse was witnessing a medical miracle.

Good thing she wasn't a Buddhist. Had you told her you had, indeed, been miraculously cured she might have insisted on calling a qualified physician just to be sure.

Meanwhile.....Back in the children's hospitals, thousands of kids are not getting healed from their heart problems or cancer despite the prayers of those who love them. I continue to wonder why one person receives multiple miraculous cures but a 7-year-old doesn't get to see age eight.

Faith moves mountains, not need. And your flesh sounds just like the son that stayed home, unhappy when the prodigal was blessed of the Father.

And she "saw" it be healed, because it had been out of rhythm in AFIB for over a year, beating itself to death, literally. Peace
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Old 04-02-2016, 12:39 PM
 
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Come now Raf. Your are talking to a guy possibly/probably just given a death sentence , and you strike even me as being insensitive .
For once, we agree. Insensitive doesn't even come close, really.
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Old 04-02-2016, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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We may overcome the things of this world.
However, death is inevitable, fear it not!
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Old 04-02-2016, 12:53 PM
 
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God does not respond to need - He responds to faith. Spend enough time growing your faith muscles because He is (not because you need or want something from Him) and you get God's attention. It's that simple. Jesus couldn't do anything in Nazareth because of their lack of faith - they thought he was just / still the carpenter boy.



I had a family member who believed as you seem to. His church refused to go to doctors or seek any medical help, because God healed . Even when his sons got injured they were taken to the church for elders to pray over, not to a doctor . He had a heart attack and refused to go see a doctor because God heals. He died .


I guess the guy that wouldn't even take his kids to doctors but trusted God to heal them just didn't have enough faith .

None of this explains why babies or small children don't get healed of life ending conditions .
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