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Old 04-01-2016, 03:33 PM
 
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This is the biblical definition of sin, not some website from a clueless person who has no idea what sin is defined as. Every single thing in the bible isnt defines as sin.

1 John 3:4 (KJV) 4 Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


Go to the OT and see what the sins are defined as, and you will see the person in that artcile doesnt have a clue.
The OT is NULL & VOID..ask Jesus..
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Old 04-01-2016, 03:37 PM
 
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The OT is NULL & VOID..ask Jesus..

Lets ask Jesus, who taught--- Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God---- that includes the ot.
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Old 04-01-2016, 03:44 PM
 
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9 sins supported by christianity
Christians are guilty of sins, but how does Christianity support those sins?
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Old 04-01-2016, 04:40 PM
 
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Christians are not under the law but under the spirit , means that people who are lead by the Holy Spirit , which should be lead away not to sin , like when sin like pride may come in this world on a believer , Holy Spirit may say `lies`, , as He will never explain as it would be faithless , but it means ``This is Not of God ``..... So we should not go there in the lead of the spirit ...............................Then things like Patriotism if taken in great pride where people look down on others then it will be sin , where as Christians interaction with their nation is that they pray for their nation and bless their nation with blessing from God , so there will be a peaceful place so where they can live and prosper and do the works of God ...............................Then there is consumerism which is the protection of the consumer , there is no sin there people have to buy clothes , and food , and shelter , then there is hoarding which is extravagance or avarice which is a sin , but the common consumer is not a sin
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:28 AM
 
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Christians are not under the law but under the spirit , means that people who are lead by the Holy Spirit , which should be lead away not to sin , like when sin like pride may come in this world on a believer , Holy Spirit may say `lies`, , as He will never explain as it would be faithless , but it means ``This is Not of God ``..... So we should not go there in the lead of the spirit ...............................Then things like Patriotism if taken in great pride where people look down on others then it will be sin , where as Christians interaction with their nation is that they pray for their nation and bless their nation with blessing from God , so there will be a peaceful place so where they can live and prosper and do the works of God ...............................Then there is consumerism which is the protection of the consumer , there is no sin there people have to buy clothes , and food , and shelter , then there is hoarding which is extravagance or avarice which is a sin , but the common consumer is not a sin


When patriotism replaces God, that is an issue. When it is my country right or wrong, that is more dangerous that MY GOD RIGHT OR WRONG.

And what be the "work of God?" TO LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and TO LOVE GOD--But one cannot love God whom they have NOT seen if they do not LOVE their neighbor whom then have seen..


You do understand what "consumerism" is right? It is so much more than buying necessities--it is about buying a $100 pair of shoes vs, a $40 pair...buying a $5000 watch vs buying a $100 watch. Consumerism is about excess...again, the ancient book cannot be used to justify greed and arrogance.
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:34 AM
 
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Christians are guilty of sins, but how does Christianity support those sins?
Obviously some have not read or do not know how?
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:35 AM
 
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Lets ask Jesus, who taught--- Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God---- that includes the ot.
The OT id passe', we are now under "grace" and forgiveness...Time for that OT to be put to bed...
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Old 04-02-2016, 08:31 AM
 
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Obviously some have not read or do not know how?
Why do you always have to be so unkind?

Lets read:

2.) APATHY- Apathy’s best friends are passivity and entitlement. Together, they’re a vicious threesome.

And this is somehow supposed to prove Christianity supports apathy.

Please explain?
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Old 04-02-2016, 10:27 AM
 
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Why do you always have to be so unkind?

Lets read:

2.) APATHY- Apathy’s best friends are passivity and entitlement. Together, they’re a vicious threesome.

And this is somehow supposed to prove Christianity supports apathy.

Please explain?
Only when people ask inane questions they really do not want answered because they are too lazy or arrogant to read for themselves..

APATHY is discussed in the ARTICLE and has 3-4 other paragraphs that explain it, really...I do not believe your god-in-the-tiny-box-of-insecurities will strike you dead if you READ it...if the link does not work on your satanic browser, please let me know..

Every question you ask of me, I also ask of you--

Why do you always have to be so unkind and patronizing?




2.) APATHY

Apathy’s best friends are passivity and entitlement. Together, they’re a vicious threesome.

There’s nothing mediocre or normal about God. His power is beyond comprehension. His beauty is beyond description. His love is beyond measure. The same God who created the universe and formed stars desires a relationship with you.

Yet, the attitude is often, “Okay, God loves me. That’s great. What’s for lunch?” No. You don’t get it, bro. God loves you. And you’re content with, “That’s great.”

What?!

Our apathetic approach to God explains a lot about why people in America aren’t lining up to become Christians.

I mean, think about it. How many Christians have you met that left you thinking, “Wow, I want to be like them?” But this should be the norm, right? Am I way off here? Shouldn’t you be so transformed by God that people want to ask about your life, even if they hate God?

In Scripture, when men and women truly experience God, everything changes. Everything. So, that begs the question, “Have you experienced God?”
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Old 04-02-2016, 10:42 AM
 
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Seems not every sin is to be avoided. In fact here are NINE that the evangelical church not only ignores, but will pretty must ENCOURAGE and USE to control the masses:


1.) FEAR

The phrases “do not fear” and “do not be afraid” appear 365 times in the Bible. Ironic? I think not. And here’s what I think the church misses about fear. Let me pose this as a question. What is the opposite of fear? Courage? Bravery? William Wallace?

2.) APATHY

Apathy’s best friends are passivity and entitlement. Together, they’re a vicious threesome.

3.) GLUTTONY

Gluttony is primarily about the heart. It’s a craving for excess. Gluttony says, “Those voids God is supposed to fill…don’t worry about that. I will fill them.” Gluttony happens when you lose your awe of God. You see, as long as your eyes are fixed on Jesus, your heart’s desire is for him.

4.) WORRY

He was serious. You see, worrying is symptomatic of a larger issue…lack of faith. And for followers of Jesus whose primary mission is to show the glory and nature of God to the world, worrying is a problem.

5.) FLATTERY

If your identity is tied to man’s praise, you’ll be eternally discontent. People are fickle. They’re here today and gone tomorrow. They’re for you one day, against you the next. They love you when you agree with them, dislike you when you don’t.

6.) COMFORT

Christians must be extremely intentional with their thoughts and actions to avoid comfort. If not, you become resistant to change. You start making secondary issues primary. You begin to see the mission as catering to insiders rather than reaching outsiders.

7.) CONSUMERISM

The essence of this sin is a false understanding of God, that God is a taker. But nothing could be further from the truth. God is a giver. He’s the Giver. And, as a man or woman created in his image, you should be a giver.

8.) PATRIOTISM

When your allegiance is torn between your country and your God, American ideals begin to shape your faith more than God. And you transpose American values onto God, believing God would be an American and think like an American.

9.) LYING

If gluttony is the elephant in the room everyone sees, but no one talks about, lying is the elephant in the room no one sees. Lying is so socially acceptable, even in Christian circles, that it often goes undetected. We’re desensitized to it.


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9 Sins the Church Is Okay With
Christianity as a body of belief supports no sin.

People - both followers of Christ and others - do place higher priority of some sins over others.

As far as the list, some are obviously sins... worry, gluttony (which is greed), and lying.

Some are indirect - in that they are not sinful in themselves, but could lead to sinful actions - fear, apathy, flattery, comfort.

Consumerism and patriotism are idolatry when the desire becomes larger than a desire for God.
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