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Old 04-10-2016, 11:00 PM
 
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Jesus said;

"For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven".

He did not say imputed righteousness.
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Old 04-11-2016, 02:48 PM
 
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nope .. it means those who reject Jesus as God (and this OP) are.
Isaiah 53:5
But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed.

1 Peter 2:24
“He himself bore our sins” in his body on the cross,
so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness;
“by his wounds you have been healed.”
Interesting that Isaiah is in the past tense when it was written, not the future tense...So, you can say "Nope" all you want, it still doesn't make you right in the face of logic...
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Old 04-11-2016, 02:50 PM
 
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nope .. it means those who reject Jesus as God (and this OP) are.
Isaiah 53:5
But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed.

1 Peter 2:24
“He himself bore our sins” in his body on the cross,
so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness;
“by his wounds you have been healed.”
And Jesus was not G-d....
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Old 04-11-2016, 09:37 PM
 
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It is written in the prophets;

"Only in the Lord are righteous deeds and power."


Since the Lord is His word then righteous deeds are by the word.

"By your words you'll be justified and by your words you'll be condemned."

Anyone who rejects me and does not accept my word he already has his judge namely the words I have spoken that's what will condemn him on the last day.
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Old 04-12-2016, 02:25 PM
 
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HEB 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.


HEB 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator lives.


Jesus left us a New Testament because He was the Testator that died.

He left us His last will and testament, but it is up to us to appropriate what we were given and act accordingly, otherwise it just sits on a shelf, unused. Peace

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Old 04-12-2016, 05:54 PM
 
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Interesting that Isaiah is in the past tense when it was written, not the future tense...So, you can say "Nope" all you want, it still doesn't make you right in the face of logic...

Isaiah is looking to the future to when it became a finished work and now it is past tense. A sure word of prophecy before the event tells us therefore, it is to be trusted.



Moreover God can speak of things in past tense because the finished work of Christ was rehearsed from the foundation of the world even as your own pathway was sealed by God before you where born. Which ever way you turn, God knows the end from the beginning. At this very moment, God can speak of your future in the past tense because in His mind it has already happened but He won't. You must discover your own future yourself.


REV 13:8 "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."
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Old 04-12-2016, 06:52 PM
 
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Isaiah is looking to the future to when it became a finished work and now it is past tense. A sure word of prophecy before the event tells us therefore, it is to be trusted.



Moreover God can speak of things in past tense because the finished work of Christ was rehearsed from the foundation of the world even as your own pathway was sealed by God before you where born. Which ever way you turn, God knows the end from the beginning. At this very moment, God can speak of your future in the past tense because in His mind it has already happened but He won't. You must discover your own future yourself.


REV 13:8 "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."
Gotta love it...Mental gymnastics...
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Old 04-13-2016, 10:32 AM
 
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Jesus said;

"For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven".

He did not say imputed righteousness.
The Pharisees had the books of the law memorized by the age of five...

So who do you suppose keeps the law better than them?

"Their righteousness is of Me, says the Lord."
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Old 04-13-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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The Pharisees had the books of the law memorized by the age of five...

So who do you suppose keeps the law better than them?

"Their righteousness is of Me, says the Lord."
Does no good to just memorize.

By the way I tried to look up the quote you have there and couldn't find it in any of the Bibles.

It is written in the prophets;

"Let the man who has my word speak my word and speak the truth." says the Lord
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Old 04-13-2016, 01:28 PM
 
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The Pharisees had the books of the law memorized by the age of five...
How do you know this?...
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