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Old 04-05-2016, 04:47 PM
 
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No. Not really. That's a result of why they were righteous. What was the thing that made Job righteous?
He walked in the ways of G-d....
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Old 04-05-2016, 04:48 PM
 
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Have you really been studying the Bible all this time and you still don't know that
"Repenting" is the only way to pass the devil's tests?
That's pretty much the whole point of the Bible.

I'm seriously worried about you peace giver
What is repentance?...
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Old 04-05-2016, 04:50 PM
 
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I believe the gospel (the good news) as it was revealed to Paul, not the stuff Peacegiver is posting.

Righteousness is a gift, just as the old covenant practice of the lamb taking your sin and giving you righteousness was a shadow of the new covenant.

God told of this new covenant when He spoke to Jeremiah, "This is the name whereby He shall be called: The LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. (Jer. 23:6)

Don't be like Israel and try to establish your own righteousness.
Flour was also a sin offering....

That New Covenant was only to be made with the Houses of Judah and Israel...
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Old 04-05-2016, 04:51 PM
 
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Old 04-05-2016, 04:51 PM
 
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Let me ask you, Richard.....why did God declare Abraham to be "righteous"?
Because he acted...
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Old 04-05-2016, 04:54 PM
 
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Because he acted...
I'd suggest you go back and re-read Genesis. It says he believed God. THEN he acted. He was considered righteous before he was circumcised. Before he offered Isaac. Before he did anything, he believed and it was credited to him as righteousness.

He acted because he believed.

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Do you really think G-d would have said he was righteous if he had said he believed but done nothing?...
Yes. Because that's what happened. He was righteous before he did anything.
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Old 04-05-2016, 04:54 PM
 
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Belief is not an action. He believed. That's it. He was righteous because of belief. He trusted God --and it resulted in his actions.

Don't put the cart before the horse.
Do you really think G-d would have said he was righteous if he had said he believed but done nothing?...
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Old 04-05-2016, 04:54 PM
 
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``Then the mother of Zebedee`s son came to Jesus with her sons and kneeling down , asked a favor of him........What is it you want ? Jesus said .............She said ``Grant that one of these sons of mine may sit at your right and the other at your left in your kingdom`` ....................``You don`t know what you are asking ``, Jesus said to them ` Can you drink the cup I am going to drink?`........... .``.We can , `` they answered ....................Jesus said to them ..``You will indeed drink from my cup, but to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant ..These places to those for whom they have been prepared by my Father ..``..........................When the ten heard about this , they were indignant with the two brothers .....Jesus called them together and said .....``You know that the rulers of the Gentiles Lord over them , and their high officials exercise authority over them .........Not so with you . Instead , who ever wants to be servant , and who ever want to be first must be your slave ..... Just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as ransom for many``.................Matthew 20:20-28..............See Christians get there eternal righteousness from Jesus Christ , as believers could not stand before God without Jesus
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Old 04-05-2016, 04:55 PM
 
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Sadly, I'm not sure YOU really know what the Judaism of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are. I'm quite sure you know of the Judaism of today...but I don't think they're the same.
And that's you opinion...Neither Abraham nor Isaac were Jews....

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Old 04-05-2016, 04:56 PM
 
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And that's you opinion...
You've demonstrated you don't understand the reason Abraham was considered righteous. You do not follow the faith of the Patriarchs, but instead think you can somehow please God by your works.

So...where am I wrong?
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