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Old 04-08-2016, 01:52 AM
 
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So many evangelical Christians use the above scripture to authenticate the New Testament. Not so. The NT had not been compiled at the time this scripture was penned. Indeed, very few people would have been in possession of Paul's letters, let alone the Gospel accounts. 2 Timothy 3:16 can only be referring to the OLD Testament or the Torah.
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I would assume the answer to that to be that it could be used to authenticate the entire bible since God is in charge of what would be included in the bible.
Hmmm . . .so God also inspired the collators of the Bible, those who determined what should and what should not be included in the New Testament?

How far do we take this "God inspired" stuff before it clearly becomes a stretch?
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Old 04-08-2016, 03:35 AM
 
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How does a Bible believer do this?

How do you as a Bible believer determine that a particular verse was inspired by God?

How do you know which books were intended (by God) to be included in the Bible? How do you confirm that they were not altered from their original writing?
What ever they like is 'inspired'. What ever the don't like is subject to 'interpretation', 'context', 'hidden meaning' and 'you don't understand my god'.

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Because they were. The end.
That wasn't his question.

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I am not a theist anymore but I will try and answer that to the best of my knowledge.


The bible is the word of God so he would keep his communication accurate. God would not allow the bible to become corrupted.
Makes one wonder why, if that is the case, it has been altered so much.
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Old 04-08-2016, 03:38 AM
 
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The bible has been claimed by God and there for anointed Word of God , and if we reject any part of it then we undermine God and His purpose ......It does not matter if that book was wrote hundreds after the cross or that book contradict the other book , God claimed the bible and it is His Word for man , there are no others ............ Even those there are some bible versions which have been watered down which can take away some understanding the outline is still correct in the eye of God , and Jesus Holy Spirit has complete knowledge of the whole Bible as it is today ................Still you can hear the prophetic Word of God speaking in the bible which is more direct to hear a word by God , like God would speak to Moses and the Moses would then pass some judgment for God and the message He said ...........or then there is critical rules Jesus said for His salvation , which will apply today where some are greater critics of Jesus salvation will reject , and not be saved to God
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Old 04-08-2016, 08:39 AM
 
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No one knows the son except the Father and no one knows the Father except the son and to whomever the Son will reveal Him.

Whoever has heard from the Father and learned from Him comes to me. Not that anyone has seen the Father. Only the one who comes from God has seen the Father, I come from Him, He sent me.

Follow me and see.
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Old 04-08-2016, 08:45 AM
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I seriously doubt it. No, I think that Christians in general are just not very critical thinking. So they come up with off the wall ideas like this in order to justify themselves. They are only lying to themselves.
You doubt what? That God could have inspired the NT? That verse in particular? Why?
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Old 04-08-2016, 08:51 AM
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Acknowledging the validity of this rationale, why do you think God stopped inspiring us, jimmie??? Did we suddenly become unworthy of inspiration? Did we not need any further inspiration? What is the thinking here, jimmie?
Because the work of redemption was completed in Jesus.
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Old 04-08-2016, 08:52 AM
 
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2 Tim 3:16 is a perfect example. How do you know that was inspired? How do you know that it was the last verse written in the Bible? It would have to have been the last verse in the Bible, if it were able to authorize all the other verses.

Just focus on that verse then. How does it have any authority?
We don't know. We weren't there.

It is taken by faith.
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Old 04-08-2016, 08:56 AM
 
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Scripture has it;

"The Lord God does nothing without revealing His secrets to His servants the prophets."

Render prophecy and you will see.
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Old 04-08-2016, 04:44 PM
 
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Scripture has it;
"The Lord God does nothing without revealing His secrets to His servants the prophets."
Render prophecy and you will see.
Yes, and ALL Scripture is inspired by God - 2nd Timothy 3:16-17

Since the Bible is Not written ABC as a dictionary, then the Bible can be researched and studied by subject or by topic arrangement. Taking one topic or subject at a time and thus we can see the internal harmony among its many Bible writers.
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Old 04-08-2016, 04:57 PM
 
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like a good movie. I can't tell ya how, I just know it was good stuff.
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