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Old 04-08-2016, 04:02 PM
 
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You doubt what? That God could have inspired the NT? That verse in particular? Why?
"God *could* have inspired this verse. Therefore, it definitely happened."

That's not a very good answer.
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Old 04-08-2016, 04:04 PM
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"God *could* have inspired this verse. Therefore, it definitely happened."

That's not a very good answer.
"Could" is your word. The Apostles and Prophets said He did.
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Old 04-08-2016, 05:37 PM
 
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Yes, and ALL Scripture is inspired by God - 2nd Timothy 3:16-17

Since the Bible is Not written ABC as a dictionary, then the Bible can be researched and studied by subject or by topic arrangement. Taking one topic or subject at a time and thus we can see the internal harmony among its many Bible writers.
Everything in the Bible is not scripture because some is not inspired by God.
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Old 04-08-2016, 06:01 PM
 
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"Could" is your word. The Apostles and Prophets said He did.
Now you are just using circular reasoning again. You have made 0 attempts to answer.

You could at least say it's a "feeling" that you have that it might be true. You haven't even done that.
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Old 04-08-2016, 06:13 PM
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Now you are just using circular reasoning again. You have made 0 attempts to answer.

You could at least say it's a "feeling" that you have that it might be true. You haven't even done that.
You certainly haven't given me any reason to doubt.
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Old 04-08-2016, 07:30 PM
 
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You certainly haven't given me any reason to doubt.
You are giving people lots of reason to doubt, and more reason to think that your faith has no basis. You are doing a great job of reinforcing and even promoting atheistic beliefs. I have to wonder if that is your goal, on some level. Please don't think that I am saying this in a humorous way. I'm very serious.

Honestly, I don't know anyone other than fundamentalist Christians who are so bad at defending their beliefs. It makes me think that it is some kind of psychological issue that causes them to have this irrational faith. And I am not saying that lightly.
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Old 04-08-2016, 07:57 PM
 
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But that really didn't address my question. It still sounds like you are making assumptions. I know that Christians use this "logic" but it is really not logical in any way. Which I'm sure that you know. It doesn't even address my question because it's circular.


The question you asked already made the assumptions. You only asked how a believer would determine which verses were true. You didn't ask how the believer determined the bible to be true. I think I know what you are getting at and even I am confused.


I skimmed through the rest of this thread and you said something about not having critical thinking skills. It is obviously not true that religious people lack intelligence or reasoning. Look at Ben Carson, he's a Adventist. People can compartmentalized and behave differently depending on the environment.


Compartmentalization
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Old 04-08-2016, 08:05 PM
 
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Everything in the Bible is not scripture because some is not inspired by God.
You just contradicted the bible. I think you just gamed over on account of rev 22:18. That's Okay, you can come hang with us. We have cake.


18I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; 19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.
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Old 04-08-2016, 08:09 PM
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You are giving people lots of reason to doubt, and more reason to think that your faith has no basis. You are doing a great job of reinforcing and even promoting atheistic beliefs. I have to wonder if that is your goal, on some level. Please don't think that I am saying this in a humorous way. I'm very serious.

Honestly, I don't know anyone other than fundamentalist Christians who are so bad at defending their beliefs. It makes me think that it is some kind of psychological issue that causes them to have this irrational faith. And I am not saying that lightly.
Nonsense. I have not stated my beliefs here. Rather, I have questioned your understanding of 1 Tim. 3:16. You have yet to defend your belief that it could NOT be referring to the NT.
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Old 04-08-2016, 09:26 PM
 
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Nonsense. I have not stated my beliefs here. Rather, I have questioned your understanding of 1 Tim. 3:16. You have yet to defend your belief that it could NOT be referring to the NT.
I've already explained that 1Tim316 couldn't possibly be referring to the NT. Paul only had one set of scripture. There is really nothing to argue.
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