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Old 04-08-2016, 10:36 PM
 
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2 Tim 3:16 couldn't have possibly been referring to the NT. Which at the time most of which had not been written, or may have just included Paul's own letters. And possibly other writings he didn't even know about that were floating around somewhere.


If you believe the bible the word of God that doesn't matter. It wouldn't be Paul authenticating the bible. God inspired Paul to write that and then God included that in the bible, Therefore it covers the entire bible, not just what parts had been written up until that time.


In my sect they trust that the bible has not been altered. It is a sacred text so it is therefore protected by God himself.
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Old 04-08-2016, 10:44 PM
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I've already explained that 1Tim316 couldn't possibly be referring to the NT. Paul only had one set of scripture. There is really nothing to argue.
Once again, you leave God out of the equation.
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Old 04-08-2016, 10:44 PM
 
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Old 04-08-2016, 10:46 PM
 
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Once again, you leave God out of the equation.
Yes, I know exactly what you believe. You've repeated yourself ad nauseum. But please make an attempt at addressing my original question.
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Old 04-08-2016, 10:50 PM
 
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How does a Bible believer do this?

How do you as a Bible believer determine that a particular verse was inspired by God?

How do you know which books were intended (by God) to be included in the Bible? How do you confirm that they were not altered from their original writing?
This is you original question. What I believe now? I can't go along with everything that's in that book. Some of it's beautiful, some I find hateful. I have knocked it down to philosophy in my world.
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Old 04-08-2016, 10:52 PM
 
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This is you original question. What I believe now? I can't go along with everything that's in that book. Some of it's beautiful, some I find hateful. I have knocked it down to philosophy in my world.
Sorry. I had to go back and read your original response. Never mind.
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Old 04-08-2016, 10:52 PM
 
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Yes, I know exactly what you believe. You've repeated yourself ad nauseum. But please make an attempt at addressing my original question.
He actually said the same thing I did. If you have never been a believer it's hard to understand how it works. Where you raised religious?
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Old 04-08-2016, 10:53 PM
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Yes, I know exactly what you believe. You've repeated yourself ad nauseum. But please make an attempt at addressing my original question.
I've already answered your OP. 1 Tim. 3:16 refers the scripture we now have, both OT and NT.
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Old 04-08-2016, 10:56 PM
 
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I've already answered your OP. 1 Tim. 3:16 refers the scripture we now have, both OT and NT.
In other words, some guy (whoever edited the New Testament) said that the Bible was inspired, and so you believe it was. That's all the evidence that you require.

Thank you. You don't need to respond any further in this thread, Jimmie.
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Old 04-08-2016, 11:01 PM
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In other words, some guy (whoever edited the New Testament) said that the Bible was inspired, and so you believe it was. That's all the evidence that you require.

Thank you. You don't need to respond any further in this thread, Jimmie.
You said the same thing. The only difference was that you thought Paul meant the OT only.
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