What does conservative mean to you? (scriptures, suicide, evolution, divorce)

[Horn of ‘83]

Originally Posted by DewDropInn

Which minority community would that be, jimmie? Women? LGBTQ? Jews?

Blacks

[DewDropInn]

Originally Posted by jimmiej

What you liberals have have done to the minority community is a damn shame! You have made them a permanent underclass. Liberalism undermines minorities by fostering dependence, avoiding accountability, lowering standards and excusing bad behavior.

So blacks are a permanent underclass, they are dependent, they avoid accountability/aren't held accountable (hard to tell what you meant), the standards for them are lower and their bad behavior is excused. (That's obviously not true....I suggest you look at incarceration rates for black men).

Is that about right, jimmie?

You're obviously not black since you said "them" not "we".....care to tell us how you decided all of this about the black community? (Since I'm not black.... I would't presume to state such things about the black community. Every black person I know is more than capable of speaking for themselves.)

[zthatzmanz28]

Originally Posted by jimmiej

What you liberals have have done to the minority community is a damn shame! You have made them a permanent underclass. Liberalism undermines minorities by fostering dependence, avoiding accountability, lowering standards and excusing bad behavior.

BUT, why is it tha LARGEST POPULATION of "underclass' and people who are dependent, void of accountability lower standards, and bad behavior are located in areas under CONSERVATIVE RULE...

The "bible-belt" has without question, the LARGEST population of people drawing on SOCIAL SERVICES and the LOWEST EDUCATION and INCOME per capita than anywhere else in the country.

Great job YOU conservatives are doing there in the south...

[nateswift]

Originally Posted by jimmiej

What you liberals have have done to the minority community is a damn shame! You have made them a permanent underclass. Liberalism undermines minorities by fostering dependence, avoiding accountability, lowering standards and excusing bad behavior.

You actualy believe tha t conservative lie, and I'll bet you don't have comparative figurs from about 1950 to the present to back up any part of it. Stop listening to what you WANT to hear and get some facts.

[OzzyRules]

Christians will never admit to their error while they are Christians. Why do I say this? Because I think that organized Christianity has always just been a justification for oppression, immoral values, and bigotry. From day one.

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by John F S

As I have said many times before, IF you follow the Teachings of Jesus Christ, then you WILL be a liberal.

Sure you think so. Just not a "liberal" as mis-defined by modern progressives, Leftists and pseudo-liberals in America. The meaning of the word is relative anyway. It doesn't mean the same in Europe, for instance.


And really, seriously, if you follow the teaching of Jesus, you won't be anything except a Son of God. An Heir to the Eternal Kingdom. You will reject such human labels and definitions.


Because God isn't defined by some human category. It's the other way around. Human categories can be defined by how well they reflect the character of God, as Jesus reflected the character of God.


And so, being a "liberal" or a "conservative" is okay, but it's better to be like Jesus.

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by OzzyRules

Not what Jesus would say at all.

If you believe that Jesus would say that charity is NOT an individual responsibility, then you don't know Jesus or his teachings at all.


After all, the world of man is made of nothing but individuals. If none of them are "responsible" for helping the needy, the orphan, the widow, the hungry... then who is?

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28

BUT, why is it tha LARGEST POPULATION of "underclass' and people who are dependent, void of accountability lower standards, and bad behavior are located in areas under CONSERVATIVE RULE...

The "bible-belt" has without question, the LARGEST population of people drawing on SOCIAL SERVICES and the LOWEST EDUCATION and INCOME per capita than anywhere else in the country.

Great job YOU conservatives are doing there in the south...

Nonsense. But, I gotta admit... this is some great comedy material. You South bashers are a riot. Even funnier than your counterparts in the "Heritage not Hate" legions.

[nateswift]

Originally Posted by Led Zeppelin

If you believe that Jesus would say that charity is NOT an individual responsibility, then you don't know Jesus or his teachings at all.


After all, the world of man is made of nothing but individuals. If none of them are "responsible" for helping the needy, the orphan, the widow, the hungry... then who is?

So.... why would support of government programs to reduce inequity preclude individual responsibility? Guess WHAT!? You can do BOTH, and unwillingness to support the government programs smacks of "You can have MY charity on MY terms."

[zthatzmanz28]

Originally Posted by Led Zeppelin

Nonsense. But, I gotta admit... this is some great comedy material. You South bashers are a riot. Even funnier than your counterparts in the "Heritage not Hate" legions.

Prove it wrong..

States with the most people on food stamps:

7. Louisiana

• Number of food stamp recipients: 868,192

• Percentage of the state's population on food stamps: 18.67%

• Total cost of just these benefits alone (That is, how much do just the money on those EBT cards cost the state): Around $107.4 million

• Cost of benefits alone per capita in this state: $23.10

6. Tennessee

• Number of food stamp recipients: Just over 1.28 million

• Percentage of the state's population on food stamps: 19.58%

• Total cost of just these benefits alone (That is, how much do just the money on those EBT cards cost the state?): Around $158.7 million

• Cost of benefits alone per capita in this state: $24.23

5. Oregon

• Number of food stamp recipients: 791,222

• Percentage of the state's population on food stamps: 19.93%

• Total cost of just these benefits alone (That is, how much do just the money on those EBT cards cost the state?): Around $98 million

• Cost of benefits alone per capita in this state: $24.66 per person

4. West Virginia

• Number of food stamp recipients: 369,249

• Percentage of the state's population on food stamps: 19.96%

• Total cost of just these benefits alone (That is, how much do just the money on those EBT cards cost the state?): Around $45.7 million

• Cost of benefits alone per capita in this state: $24.69 per person

3. New Mexico

• Number of food stamp recipients: 448,328

• Percentage of the state's population on food stamps: 21.5%

• Total cost of just these benefits alone (That is, how much do just the money on those EBT cards cost the state?): Around $55.5 million

• Cost of benefits alone per capita in this state: $26.60 per person

2. Mississippi

• Number of food stamp recipients: 650,911

• Percentage of the state's population on food stamps: 21.74%

• Total cost of just these benefits alone (That is, how much do just the money on those EBT cards cost the state?): Around $80.5 million

• Estimated cost of benefits alone per capita in this state: $26.90 per person

1. District of Columbia

• Number of food stamp recipients: 144,768

• Percentage of the state's population on food stamps: 21.97%

• Total cost of just these benefits alone (That is, how much do just the money on those EBT cards cost the state?): Around $18 million

• Estimated cost of benefits alone per capita in this state: $27.19 per person