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Old 04-24-2016, 11:30 AM
 
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I know it sounds like a shocking question to present, but try to look deeper into it. Do our sisters in our Abrahamic faith have things to offer us? Modesty, dedication, cleanliness?
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Old 04-24-2016, 12:06 PM
 
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Yes, however it's not like Muslim women have a lock on these virtues.
Christian women of all denominations adhered to them, some still do.
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Old 04-24-2016, 12:42 PM
 
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I know it sounds like a shocking question to present, but try to look deeper into it. Do our sisters in our Abrahamic faith have things to offer us? Modesty, dedication, cleanliness?
Thinking that you are holy because of the clothing that you wear, the length of your facial hair, living and dressing like it is still the 19th Century, refusing to allow doctors to treat you or your children, and a few other things, are things that are completely asinine - regardless of your religious beliefs.
Women will NOT be going to Hell just because they wear bikinis. That kind of thinking is ignorant.
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Old 04-24-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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I know it sounds like a shocking question to present, but try to look deeper into it. Do our sisters in our Abrahamic faith have things to offer us? Modesty, dedication, cleanliness?
It would be shocking if we had nothing in common with other women. Seeking common interests is certainly not shocking. It would be shocking not to seek common ground as women.
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Old 04-24-2016, 12:50 PM
 
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Thinking that you are holy because of the clothing that you wear, the length of your facial hair, living and dressing like it is still the 19th Century, refusing to allow doctors to treat you or your children, and a few other things, are things that are completely asinine - regardless of your religious beliefs.
Women will NOT be going to Hell just because they wear bikinis. That kind of thinking is ignorant.
Facial hair is always a delicate subject for women. We rarely go for length.
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Old 04-24-2016, 02:36 PM
 
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People who were born into the Muslim families may be attracted to the Muslim belief because of solid devotion . but it is still better for Jesus living Holy Spirit to be the good influence of Christian women , as Holy Spirit of God abide with His Christians , like Christians are under the spirit which Is Holy Spirit , and not under the laws of Holy text for obedience to God
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Old 04-24-2016, 02:59 PM
 
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I know it sounds like a shocking question to present, but try to look deeper into it. Do our sisters in our Abrahamic faith have things to offer us? Modesty, dedication, cleanliness?
The short answer is no. They are of Hagar the slave Galatians 4:21-31 \ Genesis 21.

The at length answer is:
This was told to Abraham:
Genesis 21 "she said to Abraham, 'Get rid of that slave woman and her son, for that woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with my son Isaac. '

But God said to him, 'Do not be so distressed about the boy and your slave woman. Listen to whatever Sarah tells you, because it is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.' "

which the deeper meaning in spiritual terms the application is now the NT Christian is "Issac" as is told by God in Galatians 4:21-31 concerning the Christian (Issac)
Hagar and Sarah

For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman.
His son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh, but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a divine promise.

These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants.

One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children.

But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother.
Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise.

At that time the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now.

But what does Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.”

Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.

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Old 04-24-2016, 06:03 PM
 
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I know it sounds like a shocking question to present, but try to look deeper into it. Do our sisters in our Abrahamic faith have things to offer us? Modesty, dedication, cleanliness?
My honest opinion? It really depends on the woman. I've known Muslims that were nice people, great to get along with, and they would put many "Christian" women to shame by their virtue. But I don't believe the religion has anything to teach us.
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Old 04-24-2016, 07:11 PM
 
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I know it sounds like a shocking question to present, but try to look deeper into it. Do our sisters in our Abrahamic faith have things to offer us? Modesty, dedication, cleanliness?
Absolutely. If modesty, dedication and cleanliness are good qualities, anyone who has those qualities would be a good example of them to someone who doesn't.
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Old 04-24-2016, 07:51 PM
 
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The short answer is no. They are of Hagar the slave Galatians 4:21-31 \ Genesis 21.

The at length answer is:
This was told to Abraham:
Genesis 21 "she said to Abraham, 'Get rid of that slave woman and her son, for that woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with my son Isaac. '

But God said to him, 'Do not be so distressed about the boy and your slave woman. Listen to whatever Sarah tells you, because it is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.' "

which the deeper meaning in spiritual terms the application is now the NT Christian is "Issac" as is told by God in Galatians 4:21-31 concerning the Christian (Issac)
Hagar and Sarah

For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman.
His son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh, but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a divine promise.

These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants.

One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children.

But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother.
Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise.

At that time the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now.
But what does Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.”

Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.
Ladies and Gentlemen, if this anachronistic attitude and barbaric theocratic philosophy ever gain control in America, we will experience the same stagnation and lack of progress that has destroyed Islam. It was once the center of science and knowledge for the world. Then this anachronistic, barbaric theocratic attitude took hold and the Islamic world has never recovered. There is no God, no love and no decency in such evil beliefs.
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