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View Poll Results: Is Jesus the only path to God?
No! 24 30.77%
Yes, but... 7 8.97%
Yes, period! 47 60.26%
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Old 04-26-2016, 09:51 AM
 
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Gods Word could not be much more clear on this matter. People will disagree however, because they want to justify their own beliefs.
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Old 04-26-2016, 09:52 AM
 
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Let's examine that passage:

John 10

7 So Jesus said to them again, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly.

11 “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. 12 He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches them and scatters them. 13 He flees because he is a hired hand and is not concerned about the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd, and I know My own and My own know Me, 15 even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd. 17 For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it again. 18 No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This commandment I received from My Father.”


It appears that the others (whoever that is) will hear Jesus' voice and become one with Him. To make that fit other religions (or lack thereof), you would have to assume that this episode will happen after physical death or at the end of this age. On the other hand, if we assume Jesus was talking about the Gentiles (non-Jews), we see that has already happened. The latter theory is made more plausible when we also take into account that Jesus called Paul to take His message to the Gentiles.
No, Peter was called by G-d to take the message to the Gentiles...Don't you people ever read and learn?...
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Old 04-26-2016, 09:55 AM
 
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Let's examine that passage:

John 10

7 So Jesus said to them again, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly.

11 “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. 12 He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches them and scatters them. 13 He flees because he is a hired hand and is not concerned about the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd, and I know My own and My own know Me, 15 even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd. 17 For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it again. 18 No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This commandment I received from My Father.”

It appears that the others (whoever that is) will hear Jesus' voice and become one with Him. To make that fit other religions (or lack thereof), you would have to assume that this episode will happen after physical death or at the end of this age. On the other hand, if we assume Jesus was talking about the Gentiles (non-Jews), we see that has already happened. The latter theory is made more plausible when we also take into account that Jesus called Paul to take His message to the Gentiles.



The fold Jesus mentioned = the little flock( Luke 12:32)-- these are the bride of Christ, the anointed--144,000 literally are bought from the earth.( Rev 3:12) The great multitude makes up the rest of the flock, but have received this promise from Jesus= Matt 5:5-- Blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth.
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Old 04-26-2016, 09:57 AM
 
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The fold Jesus mentioned = the little flock( Luke 12:32)-- these are the bride of Christ, the anointed--144,000 literally are bought from the earth.( Rev 3:12) The great multitude makes up the rest of the flock, but have received this promise from Jesus= Matt 5:5-- Blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth.
Uh...No...
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Old 04-26-2016, 10:00 AM
 
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I believe that he was speaking of the Gentiles...
You're correct. In context, it's clear that he was saying that. We really just need to read it in context -- and not try to put our own ideas into it.
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Old 04-26-2016, 10:22 AM
 
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You're correct. In context, it's clear that he was saying that. We really just need to read it in context -- and not try to put our own ideas into it.
Yea...I agree...Hence the parable of the olive trees...
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Old 04-26-2016, 10:38 AM
 
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Jesus said there would come a time when the son of man is revealed. He spoke of Himself as the son of man. The son of man is the servant and prophet of God. It is by serving the Lord in spirit and truth as the son of man and child of God that sins are forgiven and the way into the kingdom of God is given.

No one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born from above and do the will of my heavenly Father.

I am the gate, anyone who enters by me will be saved.
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Old 04-26-2016, 10:50 AM
 
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Yes. He said he is.

He is the ONLY way. Stating otherwise would be calling him a liar.
MEN wrote that is what he said. MEN who were NOT eye-witness nor present with Christ.
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Old 04-26-2016, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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MEN wrote that is what he said. MEN who were NOT eye-witness nor present with Christ.
Then why did you quote Him?
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Old 04-26-2016, 11:02 AM
 
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MEN wrote that is what he said. MEN who were NOT eye-witness nor present with Christ.
Of course John was an eyewitness. Why would you think otherwise? Besides that, the Gospel of John is inspired text. I have no reason to doubt that Jesus made the statement.

I get it that you simply would prefer to claim he never said it. I understand that. It's just easier that way. But you just stating that doesn't make it true.
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