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How much wine would you have to carry with you as you flee your home land, because your god is destroying it, in order to have blind drunk sex with your daughters scgraham, two nights in a row?
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Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801
Lol. Never considered that angle!
Nor had I. I can only assume that, as always, 'the Lord provideth' ...both a convenient cave and a liquor store on the corner that provided Lot with enough wine to send him 'blotto' for a couple of days so that his daughters could, um, rape him. And, as you've already mentioned several times, Migthtyqueen, the whole purpose of this weird story was that two sons be produced to become fathers to the Moabites and the Ammonites. Most Christians never get beyond the entire population of Sodom wanting 'to know' the angels part of the story. I guess that's all they need to know to send them off on their anti-gay rant.
You're not a true believer mystic, you worship agape love. You don't know the Gospel message, nowhere does it say we should love and repent when we don't. Nowhere does Christ say He is agape love, or that the Gospel message is: God is agape love.
You still need to get to know the basics of Christianity, forgiveness of sin through faith in Jesus Christ or you will die in your spiritual idolatry. It's a sweet fantasy to think this is the Gospel, but it'll be a hard reality when you realise agape love doesn't save you.
Chanokh is right. The message is: God is a vengeful god, a jealous god. And there are passages in the bible that back that up. The Egyptian first born's come to mind.
Nor had I. I can only assume that, as always, 'the Lord provideth' ...both a convenient cave and a liquor store on the corner that provided Lot with enough wine to send him 'blotto' for a couple of days so that his daughters could, um, rape him..
I'd like an explanation of how, if he was so drunk that he didn't know what he was doing, he managed to....well you know...'get it up'!
How much wine would you have to carry with you as you flee your home land, because your god is destroying it, in order to have blind drunk sex with your daughters scgraham, two nights in a row?
could you carry that much like your hero Lot?
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Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801
Lol. Never considered that angle!
It's actually funny that you you mentioned it - I had been wondering how Lot could have made that much wine while living in a cave after having fled the destruction of his home town. I was thinking that it would take a lot of effort to establish a vineyard when his priority would have been to feed himself and his two incestuous daughters (is that the right word?). I guess they weren't virgins anymore by then. Maybe the Sodomites did accept Lot's offer after all?
Since you disavow the Bible as God's word, we seem to be talking at cross purposes here. Care to explain what you consider the Word that is Truth and describe the nature of the Spirit that is in it????
Looks like Rbbi missed this post, Mystic. Bumping it up.
Since you disavow the Bible as God's word, we seem to be talking at cross purposes here. Care to explain what you consider the Word that is Truth and describe the nature of the Spirit that is in it????
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Originally Posted by Pleroo
Looks like Rbbi missed this post, Mystic. Bumping it up.
I'd like an explanation of how, if he was so drunk that he didn't know what he was doing, he managed to....well you know...'get it up'!
Well, one guess would be that the daughters sneakily gave their dad a cask of wine and Viagra mix. My first guess, however, is that old Lot feigned being drunk after having worked out what his horny daughters were planning. Remember, the previous love of his life was somewhere back there in the ruins of Sodom resembling a block of salt. Lot needed some lovin'. I like how the Bible puts it:
Genesis 19:33-35 (KJV)
33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
What the Bible doesn't tell us is that when Lot eventually discovered what had occurred those nights in the cave he came out with a resounding Sgt. Schultz (Hogans Heroes) cry,
"I see N-O-T-H-I-N-G!!"
"I hear N-O-T-H-I-N-G!!"
"I know N-O-T-H-I-N-G!!"
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