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Old 05-31-2016, 08:45 AM
 
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Well, you were right, 303Guy:



I should have emphasized that NO mistranslated post-1946 Bibles be used. My bad.




Anyway Jeff ...what say we skip the corrupt version of 1 Corinthians 6:9-10? Neither the original manuscripts, nor the KJV, ever used the term "homosexuality" or even the equivalent of the term in their original language. But, you know this already. You've been told this umpteen times on this thread as well as others.



I'm not buying what you are selling which is twisting what the Bible plainly says. So now you retreat to the claim that it is a translation issue. Well that is addressed as well in this article:

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However, this argument that Vines and other homosexual apologists use overlooks something critically important. They fail to mention that the Bible of Paul and of his readers in the first century was the Septuagint, which is the Greek translation of the Hebrew Old Testament. Why is that important?

When you look at the Septuagint’s translation of Leviticus 20:13, which is one of the verses condemning homosexual behavior, something very interesting is found: the compound word Paul uses for homosexual in 1 Corinthians and 1 Timothy:

The text could not be any more plain – arsēn and koitē are side by side and form the homosexual term that Paul used in his New Testament epistles. This fact devastates Vines’ argument that asserts a person cannot know the real meaning behind many words formed via compound terms. In this case, it is very clear.

Does Paul Condemn Homosexuality in 1 Corinthians and 1 Timothy? | The Confident Christian

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Moreover, most of us are included in that list of Paul's in some form or another. And, NONE of us are righteous ...no, not one (Romans 3:10).

NONE includes Paul who wrote that passage of scripture!

NONE also includes YOU, Jeff!
Well you fail to read the following verse:

"And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

That is what we were. But we've been changed. A homosexual "Christian" does not want to change. They desperately want to contort the Bible to find some inkling of approval for their lifestyle. It's not there. SSM is NEVER mentioned in discussions of marriage and not a single positive verse can be found about homosexuality.



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ALSO, who nominated Paul the divine authority to determine who will and who will not be eligible for the kingdom of God?!?
It's not Paul's Word. It's Paul's words through divine revelation from God. But that's your final escape route. Just reject most of the NT.

 
Old 05-31-2016, 09:13 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Well...if you are an example of the people he is proud of, I'm sure glad that Christianity is losing ground and atheism is growing.
Goody for you that your sure glad ... nobody expects that when people have no room for the truth Christianity is "losing ground". What we realize is the vacuum syndrome which results when Christians stop being the salt of the earth.

You along with others don't like what God says concerning this and any other properly understood teaching from the Bible for a simple reason, as Jesus said of Christians: "You are the salt of the earth"
 
Old 05-31-2016, 09:15 AM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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Our faith is based on the word of God which has stood the test of time for thousands of years. You serve the Lord of lies who will deceive many into eternal darkness.
It appears that your god brought you and your ilk into the world to be anti-homosexual warriors. Please read the comments below this absurd article in WND. Lesbian couple in Disney’s ‘Finding Dory’?
 
Old 05-31-2016, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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It appears that your god brought you and your ilk into the world to be anti-homosexual warriors. Please read the comments below this absurd article in WND. Lesbian couple in Disney’s ‘Finding Dory’?
Those comments demonstrate that one needn't be a moron to be a fundamentalist. But it helps.
 
Old 05-31-2016, 09:39 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Oh boy! You're not well. Which part of "God created homosexuals" did you not understand? If homosexuals exist then they were created by God. Please read your bible, it's right there in the beginning, in Genesis. It reads; "God created all things and saw that it was good".

Can you not see that? If God created all things and saw that it was good and homosexuals exist, therefore God created them, then it follows that God saw that homosexuals are good? Who's twisting the bible? The damn bible says God's creation is good!
Take your message back to the demons from whence it came and tell them to keep it in hell as the damned message it deserves.

1) God created male \ female Matthew 19:4 Mark 10:6 ~ Jesus

2) God created female to be the suitable partner for male Genesis 2:18-23

3) God created them both so be " man united to his wife, and they become one flesh" Genesis 2:24, Mark 10:8 ~ Jesus



It is outright blasphemous to claim that "God created homosexuals" ... God did not

It is outright blasphemous to claim that "God created homosexuals and saw it was good" ... God did not
It is outright blasphemous to claim that "Jesus never spoke about the subject" ... Jesus did
 
Old 05-31-2016, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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[quote=twin.spin;44245972]..snip...



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It is outright blasphemous to claim that "God created homosexuals" ... God did not
Did so.

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It is outright blasphemous to claim that "God created homosexuals and saw it was good" ... God did not
Did so.

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It is outright blasphemous to claim that "Jesus never spoke about the subject" ... Jesus did
Did not.
 
Old 05-31-2016, 09:56 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Mine ancestors / relatives were involved in:

The fight against European invasion from 1624--1838 when they were forced on the TRAIL of TEARS

Also the Revolutionary War

Chickamunga War
(1776–1795)

Northwest Indian War
(1785–1793)

Whiskey Rebellion
(1791–1794)

The War of 1812

Creek War
(1813–1814)

Black Hawk War
(1832)

American Civil War--BOTH sides
(1861–1865)

The Spanish American War

Crazy Snake Rebellion
(1909)

WW I

WWII

Korea

Vietnam

Gulf War
(1990–1991)

Intervention in Haiti
(1994–1995)

Bosnian War
(1994–1995)

Kosovo War
(1998–1999)

War in Afghanistan
(2001–2014)
With that mentality then I can say the same, guess that makes you thinking yourself something special ... not.

Fact is world history teaches the stronger group\tribe of people win wars and the weaker loses something other than equal treatment in history books.
 
Old 05-31-2016, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Again, it doesn't make sense that David would be a homosexual then later have a man murdered because he sexually desired the guy's wife so much.
Perhaps he was bi-sexual.

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Oh yes, bolding a question is really going to make me answer now! Knock yourself out. And sorry ,but you're not worth my time to go digging through past posts. The only thing I will always get from you is a nasty brick wall response.
So you won't answer that simple question and it's not the first simple question you have run from on this forum. Of course you won't answer it, nor did I expect you to answer it. You won't answer it because to do so would show you to be the bigot that you are.

Nor can you support your claim that I have never answered your questions by showing posts were that is evident so that makes you a liar and a fraud. Well done 'Christian'. You have confirmed our thoughts.

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Goody for you that your sure glad ...
Yes isn't it. It gladdens my heart to see ignorant religious superstition going where it belongs.

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... as Jesus said of Christians: "You are the salt of the earth"
Ummm. I don't know how to break this to you but....there were no 'Christians' when your alleged man-god is alleged to have existed. They were called 'believers' not Christians.
 
Old 05-31-2016, 09:59 AM
 
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Did God create pedophiles? After all, just another type of sexual orientation, right?
No, pedophilia is not viewed as a sexual orientation, it's a paraphilia. Regardless, maybe God did create it. In Biblical days, girls were married off when they were kids. But today, we view that as way too young to have a relationship, and thus pedophilia will never be comparable to same-sex adults in consensual relationships.
 
Old 05-31-2016, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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No, pedophilia is not viewed as a sexual orientation, it's a paraphilia. Regardless, maybe God did create it. In Biblical days, girls were married off when they were kids. But today, we view that as way too young to have a relationship, and thus pedophilia will never be comparable to same-sex adults in consensual relationships.
....but it's the only straw he has to cling to....even though it exposes his ignorance.
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