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Old 06-21-2016, 12:19 PM
 
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Luke 1:32 . .The Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David

Christ had to be David's biological progeny in order to qualify as a candidate to inherit his throne. That prerequisite was chipped in stone way back in the Old Testament by a promise that God made to David as per 2Sam 7:12-13 and Ps 132:11, cf. Acts 2:30.

FYI: David was announced as Jesus' father before the lad was even conceived, thus indicating that Joseph had nothing to do with Jesus' primary lineage to David. That being the case, then Jesus' primary lineage to David was via his birth mother. Ergo: Jesus wasn't David's adopted progeny; no, he was David's paternal progeny.

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Old 06-22-2016, 05:33 AM
 
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You mean the real father of Jesus...
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:19 PM
 
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David was announced as Jesus' father before the lad was even conceived, thus indicating that Joseph had nothing to do with Jesus' primary lineage to David. That being the case, then Jesus' primary lineage to David was via his birth mother.
I should explain something about women.

Adam was a discreet creation put together directly from the earth's dust. Not so Eve. She was constructed from a human tissue sample amputated from Adam's side. Thus Adam was a child of the earth while Eve was the child of a man-- she wasn't a second, discrete species of h.sapiens.

Eve was biologically just as much Adam as Adam except for gender because she was Adam's flesh (Gen 2:22-23). In other words: Eve was the flip side of the same biological coin. According to Gen 5:2, Eve is Adam the same as Adam is Adam.

So then, any human life on earth biologically descending by Eve-- whether virgin conceived or normally conceived --is biologically just as much Adam as Adam because the source of its mother's flesh is Adam's flesh.

By the same token, any human life on earth biologically produced by David's paternal female progeny is David's paternal progeny-- whether virgin conceived or normally conceived makes no difference because the source of its mother's flesh is David's flesh.

Now; unless someone can prove beyond a shadow of any sensible doubt that Mary wasn't biologically related to David, then rational thinking has to conclude that any, and all, human life produced by Mary's body was biologically related to David.

But Christ's paternal lineage goes back quite a bit further than David; for example;

Gen 3:15 . . I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will strike at your head, while you strike at his heel.

Just about everybody on both sides of the aisle agrees that prediction refers to Christ; ergo: if Christ is Eve's offspring, then he is Adam's too.

Luke 3:38 . .The son of Adam

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Old 06-22-2016, 05:38 PM
 
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Not all facts on the saints are in scripture. Somethings have to be surmised about the saints and if it doesn't go against the truth of dogma, what does it matter?
How do we know that we can trust the legends of Joseph?
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Old 06-22-2016, 07:19 PM
 
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How do we know that we can trust the legends of Joseph?
Because they don't contradict the scriptures.
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Old 06-22-2016, 07:47 PM
 
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How do we know that we can trust the legends of Joseph?
How do we know we can trust your claim to be a pastor with a degree in theology? For all anyone knows....that could be a legend.
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:35 PM
 
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How do we know we can trust your claim to be a pastor with a degree in theology? For all anyone knows....that could be a legend.
Vizio says it was the best $19.95 He ever spent online...The shipping was free...
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