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Old 07-04-2016, 01:15 PM
 
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You've heard the term "Cafeteria Christians"?
Yes. And?
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Old 07-04-2016, 01:37 PM
 
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In the adulterous woman parable, didn't Jesus write in the dirt?


Jesus was fulfilling a prophecy in Jeremiah saying,'' Their names will be written in the sand.''


The idea is that the wind comes along and erases them just that easy. If your name is written in the sand, it is swept away very easily.

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Old 07-04-2016, 01:47 PM
 
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No, it wasn't John it was Lazarus, as you have been told many time before...It is clear to any who actually read the NT instead of do what you do, read others opinions...
Opinions among theologians vary concerning who the 'disciple whom Jesus loved' refers to. Most hold to the view that it was John. At any rate, church tradition holds that John wrote the Gospel, and as stated, John 21:24 compared with the immediately preceding verses show that the writer of that Gospel was an eyewitness to Jesus' ministry.

Personally, I hold to the view that the descriptive phrase, 'the disciple whom Jesus loved' refers to John.
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Old 07-04-2016, 01:48 PM
 
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Yes. And?
Every believer picks and chooses what they will follow from the religious teaching available. It therefore follows that the rest of the teachings aren't important, aren't valid, or aren't convenient.
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Old 07-04-2016, 01:49 PM
 
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Opinions among theologians vary concerning who the 'disciple whom Jesus loved' refers to. Most hold to the view that it was John. At any rate, church tradition holds that John wrote the Gospel, and as stated, John 21:24 compared with the immediately preceding verses show that the writer of that Gospel was an eyewitness to Jesus' ministry.

Personally, I hold to the view that the descriptive phrase, 'the disciple whom Jesus loved' refers to John.
You mean church scholars want to believe that.
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Old 07-04-2016, 01:50 PM
 
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Or that the original autographs were initially penned around the 4th century CE...
Since we have extant NT manuscript copies dated to the second century, and since an original comes before a copy of the original, no, the original autographs were not initially penned in the 4th century A.D.

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Old 07-04-2016, 01:53 PM
 
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You mean church scholars want to believe that.
No, that's not what I mean.
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Old 07-04-2016, 01:53 PM
 
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Every believer picks and chooses what they will follow from the religious teaching available. It therefore follows that the rest of the teachings aren't important, aren't valid, or aren't convenient.
Okay. I don't disagree. So, is that the point of your thread? (Just checking.)

So, how about you? Do you find anything among the sayings attributed to Jesus worth following?
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Old 07-04-2016, 02:01 PM
 
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Okay. I don't disagree. So, is that the point of your thread? (Just checking.)

So, how about you? Do you find anything among the sayings attributed to Jesus worth following?
Those who keep the laws and teach others to keep the laws of Moses will be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.''


This is the one saying that Christians absolutely reject and will not follow. Following Jesus is giving everything up, it is your whole life. Sell all you own and give to the poor.
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Old 07-04-2016, 02:05 PM
 
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Yep. And it's hard, make no mistake about it. Self loves self more than anything else. Peace
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