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Old 09-15-2016, 08:30 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Paul still does not understand, it is the evangelicals who say Paul understood, but how could he have understood without the bible?

Oh, such little confidence you have in that vengeful insecure god of yours. You claim to believe and give they god credit, but still you do not really embrace the most important aspect of the message...

Because you know of what I speak, and you fear the possibility it is true more than you fear death itself.

What he wrote he did not have to understand, he just had to write what God told him to write. However I am sure he did understand it better than most if not all of us do.
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Florida
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What he wrote he did not have to understand, he just had to write what God told him to write. However I am sure he did understand it better than most if not all of us do.
Correct. Unlike some people here, he did not argue against the Spirit, and accuse it of being intolerant and hateful if the message didn't agree with his personal bias. Instead he honored it, and recorded the message as it was.
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:40 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Since it was written some 150 years later, it is merely conjecture and all circumstantial...
The Biblical account of Paul's conversion is only conjecture to those who do not accept ALL of the Bible as being inspired by God. And of course they have no evidence for their conjecture.
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:44 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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That's a word for word quote from someone of the CD unholy trinity. Love is not threatening nor warns of consequences, for it never gives up.
I didn't say it was. I said true love INCLUDES TELLING of the consequences of not accepting Jesus.
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:53 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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I didn't say it was. I said true love INCLUDES TELLING of the consequences of not accepting Jesus.
Wouldn't "true love" be so much more influential by showing the BENEFITS of accepting Jesus?

FEAR is never sincere and rarely do converts of fear make good citizens..
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:55 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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What he wrote he did not have to understand, he just had to write what God told him to write. However I am sure he did understand it better than most if not all of us do.
No one can prove Paulie wrote a single word..in fact what (if) Paulie did write anything, it was directed to SPECIFIC churches of his day--NOT for people 2000 years later.
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Old 09-15-2016, 10:39 AM
 
Location: New England
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I didn't say it was. I said true love INCLUDES TELLING of the consequences of not accepting Jesus.
So you basically paint a picture of believe you're loved or you will end up in eternal hell. That's a threat not a warning, and only when you are in a state of being gullible and taking leave of your senses could ever give yourself over to believing that. Thank God that folk today are waking up and smelling the coffee and seeing that the threats being breathed out by evangelicals passed off as being loving for what they are.
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Old 09-15-2016, 10:41 AM
 
Location: New England
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No more flip-flopping. Did Paul understand what the Spirit told him. Yes, or no?
Not everything, he lived by the light he had, just like we all do. Stop putting Paul on a pedestal.
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Old 09-15-2016, 10:46 AM
 
Location: New England
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Speak for you self, and don't judge me. I am surf yhou know wht Jeus said ab out that.



you don't have the ability to paint all churches with your personal brush of apostasy. Again, you need to stpp judging all who do not believe as you do.
Judge you?, so some of you fundies were not at some point alienated from God in your thinking.Something else you have conveniently forgotten

There is not a fundy that is not tied in some way to the apostate church, even if he is having meetings in his own home. Even when i got out of it, it took me a few years for God to take it out of me.

Camps speaking for himself.
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Old 09-15-2016, 01:44 PM
 
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I didn't say it was. I said true love INCLUDES TELLING of the consequences of not accepting Jesus.
No it does not. Agape love means just that, no warnings or threats or anything but love and acceptance and concern for the well-being of everyone involved. If by "not accepting Jesus" you mean not joining a specific church or proclaiming a specific set of beliefs ABOUT Jesus and God then you are wrong. There are NO consequences ties to those church requirements. What IS required is that we believe Jesus did what He said He did for us all and follow His instructions to love God and each other every day and repent when we don't.
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