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Of course there is an error, and I have personally corrected you several dozen times. You keep trying to define the views and beliefs of other people and they keep telling you that you got it all wrong, but you always come back to repeat the same false claims anyway.
What do you call a person who does that?
Your continued claims that people do not consider Christ an authority is horribly dishonest, and a complete misrepresentation of their beliefs.
No worries, I know you'll come back tomorrow to repeat it again. It's what you do, and I do not expect it to change.
Carry on.
Your selective memory is a source of never ending wonder to me. YOU are the one who is notorious for false presentation of what others believe and present, and your third statement is a glaring example of that. The point is that those I accuse present the Bible as the SUPREME authority which can't be contradicted. They CLAIM that Christ gives the authority for that, but He promised a Spirit, not a book.
Repeating your misrepresentations does not make them true, Finn, and what I say is self-evident to those who are capable of actual thought on the subject.
In matt 5? What is your understanding about what the "this" is?
well, it isn't a puzzle
For the entire law is fulfilled in one statement: Love your neighbor as yourself.
or, to keep it within the strict realm of a Command from Christ Himself:
Love your neighbor; this fulfills the law and prophets.
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
No, I don't think to. You are not saved by a feeling in your heart either.
well, see that it is you that contemplates "feelings" wadr, and not necessarily someone trying to follow Christ. "Heart" in this context is actually "mind, thoughts," as i'm sure you are aware. Ergo "Love" is not a feeling.
Your selective memory is a source of never ending wonder to me. YOU are the one who is notorious for false presentation of what others believe and present
You keep making these claims, not me. I am not surprised you'd try to turn it into an accusation towards me without providing a shred of evidence. Trying to make it about me is what you always do. It's a classic deflection.
It's sounds like a puzzle when you claim Christ said it, and then you quote Paul.
Loving your neighbor is an important teaching, but it doesn't suggest that your works or feelings are a path to salvation.
again with the works, and the feelings, lol. You seem to want to point to some duplicity, at providing Paul as a witness to Christ there? I don't get that, either. So, where you stand right now, Christ said it, Paul witnessed it, and you don't believe it? How much more "saved" can one get, than fulfilling the law?
well, see that it is you that contemplates "feelings" wadr, and not necessarily someone trying to follow Christ. "Heart" in this context is actually "mind, thoughts," as i'm sure you are aware. Ergo "Love" is not a feeling.
Maybe you don't feel love, but I do. It tends to invoke action. I do not want to play word games.
again with the works, and the feelings, lol. You seem to want to point to some duplicity, at providing Paul as a witness to Christ there? I don't get that, either. So, where you stand right now, Christ said it, Paul witnessed it, and you don't believe it? How much more "saved" can one get, than fulfilling the law?
What can I say, you said Christ said it, and then you quote Paul talking about walking with the Spirit. I didn't say I don't believe it, I said it is a part of your walk as a Christian, it is not what saves you.
We are talking about salvation, are we not.
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast"
Is loving your neighbor "work"? Lot of the time it involves works, but it does not always require works. Is it a feeling? Out of all feelings, it is the best one? Is it only a feeling? No, it is more. Is it a 'drive/catalyst'? Sure.
Like I said, I don't want to play word games. My point was, and still is, that we are saved by faith. You asked me how we are saved, and I answered it.
You keep making these claims, not me. I am not surprised you'd try to turn it into an accusation towards me without providing a shred of evidence. Trying to make it about me is what you always do. It's a classic deflection.
Actually, YOU are the one who made the personal accusation, I merely pointed out that YOU are the one with the reputation, AND I provided an example of your practice right in the post quoted, AND I addressed the substance of the post, which you fail to answer here, but your failure to recognize that was also expected. It's a classic deflection.
Maybe you don't feel love, but I do. It tends to invoke action. I do not want to play word games.
then why devolve to "feelings" and "works" when those were not mentioned?
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