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Old 08-23-2016, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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You obviously haven't been paying attention. Typical liberal.
I think, jimmiej, you have not understood what is being said. Essentially, that fundamentalist doctrines do NOT make sense(=nonsense). That there is no need for laws and rules when you operate in the Spirit which IS shown in concern for the well-being of everyone in any situation. That often the intent of what is perceived as a law or rule has been missed and great damage resulted from insisting on those bad perceptions.
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Old 08-23-2016, 09:00 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Evidence? Evidence, would make your statement more convincing.
My evidence is there are no originals and the copied that do exist were written nearly 200 years after the fact and based on oral stories..and teh fact that even a comic book does not prove he existence of Spiderman.
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Old 08-23-2016, 10:26 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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My evidence is there are no originals and the copied that do exist were written nearly 200 years after the fact and based on oral stories..and teh fact that even a comic book does not prove he existence of Spiderman.
One does not need originals when what they have is accurate. The scribes were extremely meticulous. They knew which letter each line should end with. If it had an error, they threw it away and started over. The age of a document does not affect its accuracy.

It is always amusing when secularist fundies try to compare what is know to be fiction, with what is not know to be fiction. I guess that is the best they can do with what have to work with.
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Old 08-23-2016, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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One does not need originals when what they have is accurate. The scribes were extremely meticulous. They knew which letter each line should end with. If it had an error, they threw it away and started over. The age of a document does not affect its accuracy.

It is always amusing when secularist fundies try to compare what is know to be fiction, with what is not know to be fiction. I guess that is the best they can do with what have to work with.
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Old 08-24-2016, 04:55 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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The word fundamentalist in its true meaning is perfectly acceptable, but in this day and age it means something else.
don't let the secular fundamentalist tell us how to use it. Can 2 walk together unless they agree? Use it the way it really is.

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You cannot serve both at the same time.... You are one or the other
If you accept and use the term the way non-believers have distorted it meaning,YOU are the one serving both at the same time. I am one. I use it in its original meaning and that is what any Christian would do.

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The fact that all bible fundamentalists are always talking about sin and what they assume is sin in others clearly proves they are sin not God conscious.
Your brush is way to wide. Most conservative churches talk more abuot God than they do about sin. Again you have accepted the theology of the secular fundamentalist.

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It might help for you to believe him who the scriptures testify of.
It will definitely help you if you stop judging other Christians by your unbiblical standards and get the log out of your own eye before you try to remove the speck out of mine.

For my information, do you accept that all of the Bible is God's inspired word?
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Old 08-24-2016, 05:01 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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I think, jimmiej, you have not understood what is being said. Essentially, that fundamentalist doctrines do NOT make sense(=nonsense).
What qualifies you to determine what is nonsense?


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That there is no need for laws and rules when you operate in the Spirit which IS shown in concern for the well-being of everyone in any situation.
And you get to determine what the Spirit tells us, right?


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That often the intent of what is perceived as a law or rule has been missed and great damage resulted from insisting on those bad perceptions.
What qualifies you to determine that the intent of GOD'S LAWS has been missed?

It would help to determine your qualifications if you gave us an example or 2.
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Old 08-24-2016, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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I think, jimmiej, you have not understood what is being said. Essentially, that fundamentalist doctrines do NOT make sense(=nonsense). That there is no need for laws and rules when you operate in the Spirit which IS shown in concern for the well-being of everyone in any situation. That often the intent of what is perceived as a law or rule has been missed and great damage resulted from insisting on those bad perceptions.
Typical liberal nonsense ^^^

Jerwade chastises me for using the term "liberal", but won't say the same about the term "fundamentalist". Biased and hypocritical. Where is the concern for the well-being of everyone?
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:14 AM
 
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What qualifies you to determine what is nonsense?




And you get to determine what the Spirit tells us, right?




What qualifies you to determine that the intent of GOD'S LAWS has been missed?

It would help to determine your qualifications if you gave us an example or 2.
As for the Holy Spirit, does it not speak to each of us INDIVIDUALLY and each of us have a DIFFERENT understanding of the guidance we receive?



The same qualifications that lets you determine what the law's supposed intent ought to be according to you?
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:16 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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One does not need originals when what they have is accurate. The scribes were extremely meticulous. They knew which letter each line should end with. If it had an error, they threw it away and started over. The age of a document does not affect its accuracy.

It is always amusing when secularist fundies try to compare what is know to be fiction, with what is not know to be fiction. I guess that is the best they can do with what have to work with.
How do we tell if it is accurate without originals?


If I draw a picture of MONA LISA, can you say if it is accurate without looking at the original?
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong
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My evidence is there are no originals and the copied that do exist were written nearly 200 years after the fact and based on oral stories..and teh fact that even a comic book does not prove he existence of Spiderman.
That's the real imperfection of humans. God dealt with it by providing 2 independent sources (NIV and KJV) which are theologically identical. Such that we can get His message to the accuracy that His said standard will convey, and for His final judgment to be carried out legitimately.

Anyway, no any other religion can upkeep their Holy book to this extent.
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