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I would like to discuss the same sex marriage issue in this "Christian" forum, as I believe that there is a clear picture as to why some humans like to "Test the waters" so to speak. Many just wish to push boundaries, but when the boundaries can impact on all the belief one has in the Word of God, it is a concern to those that have no particular reason for these things happening.
"What, though, about the earth? The Bible says: “Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.” (Revelation 12:12) Satan is angry about being cast out of heaven and having just a short time left. In his anger he causes distress, or “woe,” on earth."
We cannot deny that homosexual relations has brought 'woe' to the people of the earth in the pandemic disease of AIDS and of other sexually transmitted disease. The division between those that practice homosexuality and those that don't have resulted in murders, bashings, and hate between humans.
Those that promote open homosexuality use the word Homophobia, but they direct it at the person, suggesting that someone that abhors the homosexual act is against the individual homosexual as a person. This is far from the truth. IMO homophobia is being horrified or disgusted at the act itself.
In the Christian teachings of Gods written word, not in the teachings of Christendom, it is clear that homosexuality, along with bestiality, child molestation and sexual immorality in general, is condemned clearly, in the Bible. For a group of people to push governments and Christendom to disobey these Christian tenets is just what Satan wants, the further he can push people away from God's word, the more he will think he is winning his initial challenge of supremacy over the Almighty God, Jehovah.
For so called democratic governments to get involved with these issues is over-stepping their role, but again Christendom has 'ridden on the back of world governments' so what else would happen?
If, by pressure, these arrangements are called Gay marriages, it should then be the governments role, as an alternative, to have a different word for marriage between a real woman and a real man, in legal terms. I would suggest: A Homo, or GAY-marriage and a Natural Marriage.
The democratic law allows for the de-facto relationship between man and woman or between same sex partners, so why is there a need to have ceremonial events, between persons who dress in opposite to what they are, which seems they are trying to look "normal", or like a heterosexual couple?
Before you attack the messenger, remember that so far we have the right of free speech, and the right to have our own opinions.
NEIGH! Another dead horse the evangelicals can kill one more time?
Hopefully the mods will show mercy and close it before it replays all those mythological arguments...and reveals just how OPPRESSIVE HATEFUL and VENGEFUL their insecure god is that cannot deal with LOVE...
I think people's sexual orientation is a huge non-issue and the sin is in people letting such petty matters have greater significance than is warranted. This just gets in the way of doing the real work of Christ, which is to care for our fellow human (and maybe the non-humans, too) and by doing so, close the gap between us and God.
I would like to discuss the same sex marriage issue in this "Christian" forum, as I believe that there is a clear picture as to why some humans like to "Test the waters" so to speak. Many just wish to push boundaries, but when the boundaries can impact on all the belief one has in the Word of God, it is a concern to those that have no particular reason for these things happening.
"What, though, about the earth? The Bible says: “Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.” (Revelation 12:12) Satan is angry about being cast out of heaven and having just a short time left. In his anger he causes distress, or “woe,” on earth."
We cannot deny that homosexual relations has brought 'woe' to the people of the earth in the pandemic disease of AIDS and of other sexually transmitted disease. The division between those that practice homosexuality and those that don't have resulted in murders, bashings, and hate between humans.
Those that promote open homosexuality use the word Homophobia, but they direct it at the person, suggesting that someone that abhors the homosexual act is against the individual homosexual as a person. This is far from the truth. IMO homophobia is being horrified or disgusted at the act itself.
In the Christian teachings of Gods written word, not in the teachings of Christendom, it is clear that homosexuality, along with bestiality, child molestation and sexual immorality in general, is condemned clearly, in the Bible. For a group of people to push governments and Christendom to disobey these Christian tenets is just what Satan wants, the further he can push people away from God's word, the more he will think he is winning his initial challenge of supremacy over the Almighty God, Jehovah.
For so called democratic governments to get involved with these issues is over-stepping their role, but again Christendom has 'ridden on the back of world governments' so what else would happen?
If, by pressure, these arrangements are called Gay marriages, it should then be the governments role, as an alternative, to have a different word for marriage between a real woman and a real man, in legal terms. I would suggest: A Homo, or GAY-marriage and a Natural Marriage.
The democratic law allows for the de-facto relationship between man and woman or between same sex partners, so why is there a need to have ceremonial events, between persons who dress in opposite to what they are, which seems they are trying to look "normal", or like a heterosexual couple?
Before you attack the messenger, remember that so far we have the right of free speech, and the right to have our own opinions.
What homosexual acts? I want details. Are you speaking about sex?
The couple around the corner has two children. They are active in school functions. They recently purchased their first home. They are both employed. They mow their lawn. They feed the birds. They laugh and enjoy themselves. They love their families. Despicable homosexual acts. Can you imagine? A gay couple living like the rest of us and enjoying their lives? They have some nerve. [CENTER]Save[/CENTER]
I think people's sexual orientation is a huge non-issue and the sin is in people letting such petty matters have greater significance than is warranted. This just gets in the way of doing the real work of Christ, which is to care for our fellow human (and maybe the non-humans, too) and by doing so, close the gap between us and God.
Well done, very well said.
And a better choice of words, and sentiment, than what I was thinking....which is fundamentalists need to get over their precious selves.
IMO, governments have no business recognizing marriage, period. They should limit themselves to contracts. Also, government should not recognize perversions of our species and only recognize our natural state. We are a male female species. Not recognizing any marriage and only recognizing contracts would accomplish this.
I would like to discuss the same sex marriage issue in this "Christian" forum, as I believe that there is a clear picture as to why some humans like to "Test the waters" so to speak. Many just wish to push boundaries, but when the boundaries can impact on all the belief one has in the Word of God, it is a concern to those that have no particular reason for these things happening.
"What, though, about the earth? The Bible says: “Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.” (Revelation 12:12) Satan is angry about being cast out of heaven and having just a short time left. In his anger he causes distress, or “woe,” on earth."
We cannot deny that homosexual relations has brought 'woe' to the people of the earth in the pandemic disease of AIDS and of other sexually transmitted disease. The division between those that practice homosexuality and those that don't have resulted in murders, bashings, and hate between humans.
Those that promote open homosexuality use the word Homophobia, but they direct it at the person, suggesting that someone that abhors the homosexual act is against the individual homosexual as a person. This is far from the truth. IMO homophobia is being horrified or disgusted at the act itself.
In the Christian teachings of Gods written word, not in the teachings of Christendom, it is clear that homosexuality, along with bestiality, child molestation and sexual immorality in general, is condemned clearly, in the Bible. For a group of people to push governments and Christendom to disobey these Christian tenets is just what Satan wants, the further he can push people away from God's word, the more he will think he is winning his initial challenge of supremacy over the Almighty God, Jehovah.
For so called democratic governments to get involved with these issues is over-stepping their role, but again Christendom has 'ridden on the back of world governments' so what else would happen?
If, by pressure, these arrangements are called Gay marriages, it should then be the governments role, as an alternative, to have a different word for marriage between a real woman and a real man, in legal terms. I would suggest: A Homo, or GAY-marriage and a Natural Marriage.
The democratic law allows for the de-facto relationship between man and woman or between same sex partners, so why is there a need to have ceremonial events, between persons who dress in opposite to what they are, which seems they are trying to look "normal", or like a heterosexual couple?
Before you attack the messenger, remember that so far we have the right of free speech, and the right to have our own opinions.
You have it back to front. For religious organisations to determine what a secular nation does, in regards to issuing a marriage license, they have overstepped their mark.
IMO, governments have no business recognizing marriage, period. They should limit themselves to contracts. Also, government should not recognize perversions of our species and only recognize our natural state. We are a male female species. Not recognizing any marriage and only recognizing contracts would accomplish this.
Show us chapter and verse where MARRIAGE was performed as a religious rite?
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